Global Warming what Joke----lol (Al Gore, Congress, statistics, Simpson)

[tonyandclaire89]

Its been really cold here in Boston since the end of November...its now February 23 and the temperature is expected to reach 19 degrees...
Global Warming...my "$%^&$$"......My kids used to roll their eyes when I told them that GW was BS....and they would always say I was wrong...and now they think Al Gore and all his followers are idiots....But then again we're just simpletons as the GW crowd would say.........oh honey pass out the suntan lotion...I think Im going outside to deck and catch some rays......lol...lol....lol...lol

[compJockey]

And yet another detailed, scientific refutation of GW/climate change.
Oh wait, you did the detailed scientific (we had a cold day) thread last time as well.

[sanrene]

It will not stop obama and the dems from implementing GW policies. They completely believe the hoax. These policies are going to cost business and jobs.

[tonyandclaire89]

• Hey ComJockey here's list of more simpletons
• “I am a skeptic … . Global warming has become a new religion.” — Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

• “Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly … . As a scientist I remain skeptical.” — Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a Ph.D. in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most pre-eminent scientists of the last 100 years.”

• Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history … . When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” — U.N. IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning Ph.D. environmental physical chemist.

• “The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds … . I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists.” — Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the U.N.-supported International Year of the Planet.

• “The models and forecasts of the U.N. IPCC “are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.” — Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico.

• “It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.” — U.S. Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

• “Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapor and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.” — Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, New Zealand.

• “After reading [U.N. IPCC chairman] Pachauri’s asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it’s hard to remain quiet.” — Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society’s Probability and Statistics Committee and is an associate editor of Monthly Weather Review.

• “For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?” — Geologist Dr. David Gee, the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer-reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.

• “Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp … . Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” — Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch U.N. IPCC committee.

• “Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.” — Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh, Pa.

• “Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense … . The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” — Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.

• “CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another … . Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so … . Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” — Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.

• “The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.” — Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata.

[compJockey]

I don't see any of those simpletons claiming that global warming / climate change is a hoax because of a cold day, cold week, cold month or even a cold year.

So while you list some quotes, their evidence against is not provided and if it was, it certainly will be more than your "its cold outside" evidence.

[sacredgrooves]

I am of the mind that GW believers have to prove it IS real, we do not have to prove it is NOT. Oh yea, it is "climate change" now to cover all the bases. Wake up and smell the sun cycles.

[compJockey]

Originally Posted by sacredgrooves

I am of the mind that GW believers have to prove it IS real, we do not have to prove it is NOT. Oh yea, it is "climate change" now to cover all the bases. Wake up and smell the sun cycles.

When you look out in the distance, does the earth look like a sphere? Nope, it looks flat.
But yet it is spherical.

Trusting your eyes (or the temperature outside in this case) alone to make your decisions is very short-sighted.

That match I just threw down in the forrest?
It didn't immediately burst into a blazing inferno, so I am at no fault for the forrest burning down.

Edit: I have zero problem trusting that people who have studied the subject know significantly more than people who don't (vast majority of message board posters).

[BigJon3475]

They also found 193,000 sq miles of ice they lost... They'll get back to us with more undeniable data....

[Unstable]

I don't see what's complicated about "we don't know what adding **** to the air will do, so we should stop adding **** to the air."

I would prefer the debate be on those terms.

[idahogie]

People who bet against science usually lose. And lose miserably.

You might as well be an anti-vaccinationist or a creationist.