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Old 03-21-2009, 10:22 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Well, the insurance companies sure as H*** aren't efficient, with about a 30% overhead, plus they make a profit. Apparently you have never had to deal with an insurance company over a disputed claim. The right hand usually doesn't know what the left hand is doing; it's a mess. This has been with more than one insurance company.
I have dealt with a disputed claim and know that the private insurance industry is far from perfect but I seriously doubt that a government-ran program would be any more efficient. Have you ever personally dealt with government inefficiency and ineptitude? I would not be surprised if the overhead expenses for a government-ran program end up exceeding 30%. My gut feeling is that a UHC system would be more costly and less efficient than what we have now.
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:23 PM
 
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A) You misquoted that number. There about 30 Million AMERICAN uninsured. The rest are illegal immigrants.

B) You did not answer my question. You said 50 millions (probably a lot more than 50 million) are very unhappy with their health insurance
A direct quote from the newspaper article of the Censure Bureau report:

"number of people without health insurance dropped 1.3 million to 45.7 million."

I stand by the 45.7 - I've heard that number quoted by a number of sources.

And I assume that people without any health insurance are unhappy with their health insurance.

Care to provide any backup for your claim that millions are happy with their insurance - one that quotes exactly how many feel this way??
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Greatday... These are actually some great suggestions that you have presented to us. What do you think about flat rate doctors? This is where the doctor charges a monthly fee for unlimited services. The example I heard about was a NYC doctor trying to ameliorate the uninsured problem. He charged $79 a month with an annual contract, no outside insurances, and no pre disposing condition clause. I just don't understand why NY and MD are trying to develop laws against this.
We have Flat rates here as well - Pretty well received from what I hear. Why the states would try to interfere with this - stupid thing to do IMO.

We also have doctors who are not taking any insurance at all. They charge a lower office visit - they have not lost patience.
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:24 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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This is not a reliable source as anyone can contribute to the entries. Try again.
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The condition is Acid Reflux aka practically constant heart burn. Again 75 dollars for 60 pills.
Yep - and if the OTC meds won't work - you have to "kick it up a notch".

I have no doubt there are meds that are expensive - but, frankly, that $75 does not seem bad to me. I've paid FAR more for some pain med recently
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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This is not a reliable source as anyone can contribute to the entries. Try again.
It is reliable if footnoted. In fact, I read an article in Newsweek that stated there are no more errors in Wikipedia than in any other encyclopedia.
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:26 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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The condition is Acid Reflux aka practically constant heart burn. Again 75 dollars for 60 pills.
Don't they have over the counter or generic versions of that medication?
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I have dealt with a disputed claim and know that the private insurance industry is far from perfect but I seriously doubt that a government-ran program would be any more efficient. Have you ever personally dealt with government inefficiency and ineptitude? I would not be surprised if the overhead expenses for a government-ran program end up exceeding 30%. My gut feeling is that a UHC system would be more costly and less efficient than what we have now.
Medicare claims a much lower administration cost than pvt. insurance.
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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It is reliable if footnoted. In fact, I read an article in Newsweek that stated there are no more errors in Wikipedia than in any other encyclopedia.
The problem with Wiki is, anyone can change it.

Colleges and Universities generally do not allow wiki citations.

The courts DEFINITELY do not allow Wiki citations.
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:28 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Yep - and if the OTC meds won't work - you have to "kick it up a notch".

I have no doubt there are meds that are expensive - but, frankly, that $75 does not seem bad to me. I've paid FAR more for some pain med recently
This my sister that was paying 800 dollars a month on health insurance. If you think thats not being raped then tell me what is?
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