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All the talk about waterboarding...which in military academies also have been done as hazing....and now is concidered torture even though it has been proven to have saved lives since the man who it was done to has given up many names and places of where an attack was planned.
What about what the terrorist have done to Daniel Pearl...what they have done to John McCain and other POW...
What about all the army members who are blown up in pieces because they are fooled by homocide bombers....etc....OMG do we have to feel sorry for the terrorists, do we have to feel sorry if we get information of the pirate who with a AKA 47 kidnapped the captain and who can give us a lot of important info....think about how much compassion they have for Americans when they capture them!
Hazing at any U.S. military academy is grounds for dismissal.
"and now is concidered torture even though it has been proven to have saved lives"
No such proof exists, in point of fact the FBI asserts that all actionable intelligence was gleaned from the detanees prior to the use of torture.
"What about what the terrorist have done to Daniel Pearl...what they have done to John McCain and other POW..."
I suppose there is a point in there somewhere, although I can't tell what it is so let me offer this; is the U.S. to viewed in the same category as North Vietnam, or Islamic terrorist?
"do we have to feel sorry for the terrorists, do we have to feel sorry if we get information of the pirate who with a AKA 47 kidnapped the captain and who can give us a lot of important info....think about how much compassion they have for Americans when they capture them!"
This has abosolutely nothing to do with sympathy, empathy or any other shared human feelings, it is about the rule of law and the nation adhereing to its most core values.
All the talk about waterboarding......and now is concidered torture even though it has been proven to have saved lives since the man who it was done to has given up many names and places of where an attack was planned.
Wrong.
2007 White House fact sheet - see
We Also Broke Up Other Post-9/11 Aviation Plots
In 2002, we broke up a plot by KSM to hijack an airplane and fly it into the tallest building on the West Coast. During a hearing at Guantanamo Bay two months ago, KSM stated that the intended target was the Library Tower in Los Angeles.
In 2003, we uncovered and stopped a plot led by another suspected senior al Qaeda operative named Abu Bakr al-Azdi. Our intelligence community believes this plot was to be another East Coast aviation attack – hijacking multiple airplanes and then crashing them into targets in the United States.
What about what the terrorist have done to Daniel Pearl...what they have done to John McCain and other POW...
What about all the army members who are blown up in pieces because they are fooled by homocide bombers....etc....OMG do we have to feel sorry for the terrorists, do we have to feel sorry if we get information of the pirate who with a AKA 47 kidnapped the captain and who can give us a lot of important info....think about how much compassion they have for Americans when they capture them!
Pearl - Murder - wrong, capture and lock up (have a trial, convict and jail)
McCain - Torture - wrong, capture and lock up (have a trial, convict and jail)
Others - Murder - wrong, capture and lock up (have a trial, convict and execute)
All the talk about waterboarding...which in military academies also have been done as hazing....and now is concidered torture even though it has been proven to have saved lives since the man who it was done to has given up many names and places of where an attack was planned.
Waterboarding has always been considered torture. For hundreds of years. I don't think that's really in question. Your opening sentence is a non sequiter
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I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone for agreeing so adamantly with the libs on this one.
Christopher Hitchens used to think waterboarding was ok. Then, he experienced it. Immediately afterwards, he re-evaluated his position. 4 JAGs wrote a report that directly stated: "Waterboarding is inhumane, it is torture, and it is illegal."
Until someone can cite some credible information that counters this evidence from a NON-BIASED report (it can be from a left/right wing blog but the report must be verified as legitimate), it is merely your non-expert opinion and no judge would ever listen to it in a court of law.
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