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Old 07-27-2011, 09:50 PM
 
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Seriously, what is that about.

‪WTC 7 - Pull It By Larry Silverstein‬‏ - YouTube
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:08 PM
 
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I used to pooh pooh any conspiracy related to 9/11.
Now looking backwards and seeing how this incident was used as an excuse to start wars, grow the state and violate civil liberties, you have to wonder.

One thing is for sure, we can never count on the powers that be to tell us the whole story.
Absolutely. We don't know the whole story here. Perhaps someday September 11, 2001 will be known as the catalyst that started the eventual downfall of the United States. This so called war on terror started in the middle east and now its being turned inward to include regular United States citizens. Homeland Security considers us all terrorists now.
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:38 AM
 
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Um, actually I thought I was stating my opinion... go figure.

yes, that you repeat the lies of 911 deniers is your opinion. yeah I have a bridge in brooklyn to sell.
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:40 AM
 
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Seriously, what is that about.

and you quote long debunked claims. and post to 911 denier youtube videos.

Welcome to 2006. Can you join us in 2011 where most of this BS has been debunked?

WTC7 Pulled
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lie...tomean%22demol
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lie...tersfromdanger


http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/introduction
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:04 AM
 
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That is disgusting to see that they intentionally collapsed that building.
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:05 AM
 
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That is disgusting to see that they intentionally collapsed that building.

And they didn't. Pull it is not a controlled demolition term (never was and never has been).

Its a term used by FIREFIGHTERS to pull units/men from a building or a situation that can be dangerous
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lie...tersfromdanger

Please do not believe hte lies of 911 deniers. They aren't truth seekers, but 911 revisionists.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:43 AM
 
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No I am not suggesting they should have left it. I didn't say that nor did I say I was asleep. I was referring to the fairly quick hauling off, restriction and overseas recycling of this metal and the fact that more open thorough investigations and analysis weren't allowed.
Obviously, many in the US alone would be concerned. I am also very curious why smoking fires supposedly burned for months, but of the things floating around much of it was paper.
Some of the steel was recycled to China, India, Bangladesh, etc.--countries that are desperate for building materials and don't have the same quality control/building codes the US does. This was not a secret. There was even an article in the paper, for example, following a piece of steel from the port to its destination overseas juxtaposed with the story of the survivor whose office contained that particular piece of steel while the buildings stood.

However, as you are surely aware, tons of the steel was retained for examination and investigation. NIST had about 200 pieces, which they returned to the PA two years ago. The rest was kept at Hangar 17 at JFKIA. There is and has been for about two months now a newspaper article every single day about how they are giving out pieces of the steel for memorials in municipalities across the country, and lowering some large pieces of steel (and other items, like firetrucks) into the museum construction area beneath the 9/11 Memorial. There are already pieces of steel on display in NYC museums as well as the Smithsonian and the NYS museum at Albany. It's a little disingenous for people to focus on some of the steel being sold off when so much of it was retained, and just happen not to mention that last part.

I am not sure why you are curious about the fires lasting so long. There were six basement levels beneath the WTC, so about 60 feet deep of space down there. There were vehicles parked down there, and debris of course fell into the sublevel areas. Fires continued to burn because it took three months to remove enough debris to get down that far.

It sounds as if you need to do a little basic reading on the recovery and cleanup operations.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Which is why the growing number of professional engineers who doubt the official story should be accredited. Architects and engineers for 911 truth...
Please list these structural engineers that know everything about the world trade center blue prints and building design.

I'm willing to bet I can discredit most of them on the grounds that they aren't intimately familiar with the design and blue prints.
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Old 07-28-2011, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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If you are an engineer, you may want to state your calculations to these gentlemen.

1,500 architects and engineers say it is impossible for those jets to cause a free-fall.

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why did building 7 free fall in 6 seconds, without any plane hitting it?

Do you know what was kept in building 7?
oh please of those 1500 A+E...NONE of them have experience with skyscrapers, demolution, or structural engineering...on or the 'engineers' is a DENTAL engineer


Why is it when the twoofers talk about bld7, people never:

1. Admit that the building got BADLY damaged when the towers fell:

a) the entire front fascia was sheared off

b) a 12-16 story gash(hole) in the corner(main supports)(Proves the FACT that there was MASSIVE structural damage)

2. Admit that there was an entire ConED substation(electric plant) below the building. (this article PROVES the substation and the new one rebuilt in May04,, It also gives a good description of the transformers)

Lower Manhattan Development Corporation - GOVERNOR PATAKI JOINS CON EDISON TO MARK OPENING OF ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION AT 7 WORLD TRADE CENTER

3. Admit that the building had 20 or more back up generators (4 on the 23rd floor, 3 on the 7th floor, 14 on the 5th floor, 1 on the 8th floor w/fuel tank, 4 on the 46th floor, 1 on the 9th floor)(Proves the FACT of many things that could have BLOWN up within the building supporting the statements of "heard explosions")

4. Admit that the building had 22 main Transformers(which can explode if heated(full of oil))(some of them 2 stories tall) and 2 dry transformers (10 1st floor, 12 5th floor, 2 7th floor)(proves the FACT of more things that could have blown up)

5. Admit that the Fuel source for those generators was stored in the building and equaled 18 tankers (18,000 gallons on the 2nd floor, and 48,000 in the lower level, 300 gallons on the 23rd floor, 300 gallons on the 5th floor, 100 gallons on the 9th floor, 300 gallons on the 7th floor)(proves the FACT of a major fuel source, along with all the office furnature)

6. Admit the there was LP gas lines running throughout the building

7. Admit that the Penthouse fell FIRST

8. Admit that the building did NOT fall symmetrically it collapsed from the center(the north wall even covered the debris

9. Admit that it did NOT fall with in its footprint, it covered "barkley street" and caused SIGNIFICANT DAMAGED(fell onto) another building (30 west broadway) and the Verizon building( just some logic here cant be in its "own footprint if it went OUTSIDE of its footprint)(ABSOLUTELY proves that it was not a PERFECT symmetrical fall)

10. Admit that the FIREMEN, said the fire could not be CONTROLLED

A) I will give just two,,,,"We walked over by number Seven World Trade Center as it was burning and saw this 40-plus story building with fire on nearly all floors." –FDNY Lieutenant Robert LaRocca

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...HIC/9110081.PD (broken link)

b). The major concern at that time was number Seven, building number Seven, which had taken a big hit from the north tower. When it fell, it ripped steel out from between the third and sixth floors across the facade on Vesey Street. We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing. –FDNY Chief Frank Fellini

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110217.PDF (broken link)

11. Admit that there was a problem with the water supply(NO WATER)

12 the only mention "3 buildings" but not the other 10 buildings were destroyed that day in NYC

13. Admit that to wire a building.:

.......a) would take months.

.......b) beams would HAVE to be cut ,making the building NOT safe to go into for months prior to the collapse(proves that there is not way the building could have been imploded since monday sept 10 was a WORK DAY)

.......c) explosives don't like fire and heat

........d) that the term "pull" is NOT used in Explosive demos
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