Do you fly the Confederate Flag? (Oklahoma, kids, foreign, Americans)
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Exactly! Again... is there some epidemic of CA government buildings flying Confederate flags in Compton, and California? Has a confederate flag ever been flown on any of our state buildings? I highly doubt it!
Originally Posted by steven_h Exactly! Again... is there some epidemic of CA government buildings flying Confederate flags in Compton, and California? Has a confederate flag ever been flown on any of our state buildings? I highly doubt it!
As the article you linked explains, there were items with confederate flags being sold at the California State Fair.
Was there such a huge market for these Confederate trinkets that it required more laws? I've been to many county fairs, and have never seen anyone walking around with them.
Even though it was wrong, slavery was legal. The constitution said that any right not specifically given to the federal government, belonged to the states. So the states had the legal right to decide about slavery in each state. The Emancipation proclamation was illegal. So technically, the war was fought over state's rights, even though slavery was the driving force. So both sides are right.
I do not care if slavery was legal. Jim Crow was legal too. It's personal for me because my ancestors were enslaved in the South. And the nation was in a state of war, so anything was no holds barred. The Emancipation Proclamation was a response to war, a war the South started.
It puzzles me that if blacks despise the South so much, and our southern heritage, why don't they leave for greener pastures?
It's like the brouhaha at Washington and Lee. The blacks forced the school to remove the confederate flag. Why go through all the hassle of applying to attend a school that you deem "offensive"?
It's truly befuddling.
It's like those folks who buy a house under the runway at the local airport, and then sue the airport because it's noisy at their house.
What the heck?
Actually, from 1900-1970, that is what alot of Blacks did. They left the South. The ones that stayed and consider themselves southerners, I haven't heard one of them express any admiration for the Confederate flag. In fact, my mother is from the South, and she is a Black woman. She said to me "I'm southern, but the Confederate flag is not my pride". I know Black people who say they are southern, but also do not have any admiration or respect for the Confederate flag.
My point is this. If it was a symbol of southern heritage, then Black southerners would embrace it too. However, by the very fact that Black southerners, by and large, do not embrace it or consider it part of their heritage, you need to really think about some things.
And the Blacks who are moving to the South, they are moving to places that are receiving alot of out-of-state transplants, places like Atlanta, Charlotte, Northern Virginia, etc. Basically, places where the Confederate flag would not be seen outside of museums. I don't see many Blacks moving to Mississippi, Alabama, or the very rural parts of Georgia.
You see, Blacks living in the South but not liking the Confederate flag, it isn't befuddling to me. I get it.
I do not care if slavery was legal. Jim Crow was legal too. It's personal for me because my ancestors were enslaved in the South. And the nation was in a state of war, so anything was no holds barred. The Emancipation Proclamation was a response to war, a war the South started.
Got anything to say about the Black slave owners, especially the ones in Louisiana who used their Black female slaves in their sex industry?
Got anything to say about the Black slave owners, especially the ones in Louisiana who used their Black female slaves in their sex industry?
Yes. They made up a very tiny portion of the slave-holding population. The vast majority of Blacks were slaves in the USA. The vast majority slave owners were White southerners.
And furthermore, what does this have to do with my despising the Confederate flag?
Actually, from 1900-1970, that is what alot of Blacks did. They left the South. The ones that stayed and consider themselves southerners, I haven't heard one of them express any admiration for the Confederate flag. In fact, my mother is from the South, and she is a Black woman. She said to me "I'm southern, but the Confederate flag is not my pride". I know Black people who say they are southern, but also do not have any admiration or respect for the Confederate flag.
My point is this. If it was a symbol of southern heritage, then Black southerners would embrace it too. However, by the very fact that Black southerners, by and large, do not embrace it or consider it part of their heritage, you need to really think about some things.
And the Blacks who are moving to the South, they are moving to places that are receiving alot of out-of-state transplants, places like Atlanta, Charlotte, Northern Virginia, etc. Basically, places where the Confederate flag would not be seen outside of museums. I don't see many Blacks moving to Mississippi, Alabama, or the very rural parts of Georgia.
You see, Blacks living in the South but not liking the Confederate flag, it isn't befuddling to me. I get it.
White Southerners like white Northerners do not obsess about something that happened 150 years ago. Neither have racism as a primary occupier or concern of their thoughts. It appears that racism is the primary thoughts being processed within the Black mind.
Yes. They made up a very tiny portion of the slave-holding population. The vast majority of Blacks were slaves in the USA. The vast majority slave owners were White southerners.
And furthermore, what does this have to do with my despising the Confederate flag?
Nothing. I didn't say it did. I just wanted you to acknowledge that there were Black slave owners as well as were there white slave owners. I could care less how you feel about the Confederate Flag. I don't even fly the American Flag at my home.
White Southerners like white Northerners do not obsess about something that happened 150 years ago. Neither have racism as a primary occupier or concern of their thoughts. It appears that racism is the primary thoughts being processed within the Black mind.
Really? Then why did many southerners fly it to protest integration? Why are there people referring to the Civil War as the "war of northern aggression", despite the fact that the South started it? If people were not obsessed, then no one would fly the Confederate flag at all.
And until racism truly goes away, in earnest, the Black people will not worry about racism.
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