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Old 05-14-2009, 08:37 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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yeah, that ridiculous notion that it takes a man to make a baby. absurd.

I don't have a problem with them calling themselves married. people can call each other what they want. it's a "free" country.
You've never heard of invitro? Surrogate mothers? Where've you been?
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:37 AM
 
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There is not a liberal on this earth that believes in staying out of the affairs of other people.... you must not be a liberal.
I am pretty much center. I only care about other people when their actions are effecting society. Such as people destroying the environment and such. I don't care at all about what two people do sexually behind closed doors with no effect on me.

Whats up with this lame, "You have to be a liberal", or "You must be a conservative" bs. I am a human with my own thoughts on different subjects. People can't be labled that easy.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I don't have a problem with technical marriage between homosexuals but gay couples raising children is a an unacceptable concept to me. Children under these circumstances will always be deprived of a true father or mother... something the majority of their peers will have and cherish that these kids won't, it will take these kids into their teens until the understand whats going on. I am not saying there can be no love in this situation, there certainly can be, but the most important time of these children's lives will pass by with one of these missing elements. My opinion does not even factor in any sort of embarrassment or ridicule that may ensue.
My opinion exactly. In a way, I feel like a bigot for having this opinion.

I should make clear, though, that I don't have a problem with gay people being around kids and my opinion is not based on a fear for the kids' safety.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:38 AM
 
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I use to think this. One thought of mine came up though. I remember like a quarter of the kids I knew came out of families with one parent, and where not really given full parenting as that parent was always working. Then I remember many kids who grew up to abusive parents, or alcoholics, or just plain retards. Is growing up to two fathers or mothers who are great parents actually as bad or worse than those situations?
So your saying homosexual couples are immune to potential problems of heterosexual couples? So your saying you used to believe in statistics but now you completely ignore them?

Also are you trying to justify the "missing element" argument by using examples of deprived children? A homosexual couple raising children only guarantees the missing element. Unlike single parenthood, homosexual couple parenthood can be dictated.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:38 AM
 
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still takes a man and a dixie cup.

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You've never heard of invitro? Surrogate mothers? Where've you been?
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:40 AM
 
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I don't have a problem with technical marriage between homosexuals but gay couples raising children is a an unacceptable concept to me. Children under these circumstances will always be deprived of a true father or mother... something the majority of their peers will have and cherish that these kids won't, it will take these kids into their teens until the understand whats going on. I am not saying there can be no love in this situation, there certainly can be, but the most important time of these children's lives will pass by with one of these missing elements. My opinion does not even factor in any sort of embarrassment or ridicule that may ensue.
Really? Their peers will have mothers and fathers?
Don't get out much, do you?

I'll relate a story -- I overhead my dds friend talking (I was driving, btw) the friend was asked what she was getting for christmas. She replied a Wii system. Her friends said wow thats expensive and she replied "Well, since my 'dad' only sees my once a year and doesn't try to call or anything expect for the three days he's forced to be around me I figure a Wii is the least he owes me"

Sadly, her story is not unique. The term 'deadbeat dad' is not an exception in our society. How many times do parents divorce only to set up new homes with new spouses and new children leaving the children from the first marriage 'out'? Too often.
And really -- how does Wanda Sykes differ that greatly from the legions of unwed mothers out there? Aside from her being a part of a loving and stable couple, I mean.....

Face it, heteros have completely abused the premise of marriage, fidelity and family. I give kudos to anyone who makes a loving commitment to be a family, regardless of what they do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:40 AM
 
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So your saying homosexual couples are immune to potential problems of heterosexual couples? So your saying you used to believe in statistics but now you completely ignore them?
How hard is it to understand what I am saying. I am saying that many many kids out there don't grow up in that traditional Mom and Dad, dinner at 6 style home. So what is any different between a kid having two moms, or two dads. Is that worse than having a father that drinks old crow and beats his kids?

Quit taking my post and adding your own twist too it, changing what I am actually saying.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Who's the Father?

Is Wanda a tranny?
I heard rush was the father
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:42 AM
 
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Whats up with this lame, "You have to be a liberal", or "You must be a conservative" bs. I am a human with my own thoughts on different subjects. People can't be labled that easy.
Actually I said, "you must NOT be a liberal". Thats far more gratuitous than limiting you to one category.

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Old 05-14-2009, 08:43 AM
 
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still takes a man and a dixie cup.
Your point? Takes a woman too, doesn't mean you have to be heterosexual to have a kid.
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