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Free elections to the east and west of Iran, now a potential nuclear terrorist state is on the brink of a civil war to remove the government that is taking them down this road to destruction. Get a clue. How many millions more must die because of Islamo-fascist theocracies hell-bent on final world conflict? Bush did the right thing and democracy is blossoming in the heartland of tyranny. We don't need a UHC and can't pay for it. The only reason BO wants it is to make independent Americans dependent.
What a misread! Both candidates in Iran were hard-line Islamists. It's as if the battle were between Hannity and Beck. You aren't going to get any actual sense out of the situation no matter which one wins.
What we have in the region you speak of is window-dressing democracy. When you start seeing US elections being regularly decided by which candidate gets blown up first, then you can say that see, they have democracy just like we do.
Really? I couldn't understand a word he said. Can someone get this man to wear teeth?
Frank has a minor speech impediment that he chooses not to bother correcting. It's good of you to make fun of him over it, but I don't really think that it's the slight slurring in his speech that keeps right-wingers from understanding what he says.
Sort of like the Red Sox beating up on some Liitle League team. Frank is a very smart guy. O'Reilly is intellectually on the level of Paris Hilton...
If Frank is a smart guy could dummies be any worse? Remember his comment when Bush people appeared before his committee to try to persuade Congress to rein in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? His response? I'd rather let them roll the dice a while longer. Well, they rolled the dice and we lost--big time. I'd say that at least 50% of the economic downturn is attributable to Frank and his ilk. Smart, huh?
If Frank is a smart guy could dummies be any worse? Remember his comment when Bush people appeared before his committee to try to persuade Congress to rein in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? His response? I'd rather let them roll the dice a while longer. Well, they rolled the dice and we lost--big time. I'd say that at least 50% of the economic downturn is attributable to Frank and his ilk. Smart, huh?
That would be because you don't know what amounts to a hill of beans about how the credit crisis emerged and was then allowed to bleed out into a global economic collapse. There were no attempts AT ALL by Republicans to address any aspects of actual GSE operations. Every single ploy they tried was an attempt to constrain the volume of GSE operations so as to wedge them out of the secondary mortgage markets, these efforts undertaken as a favor to their buddies at all those now defunct Wall Street investment banks who wanted to have the whole sandbox to play in by themselves as they proceeded to dump worse and worse crap into those markets in exchange for ever larger profits and bonuses. It is these people and their laissez-faire Republican enablers in the Executive Branch whose "ilk" a knowledgeable person would be upset over. But you aren't a member of that group. Go learn something, then come back and try to offer an analysis. The GSE's themsleves played a minor role in this fiasco, and the bulk of that came after the real damage had already been done. You'd have known that if you'd been following along...
That would be because you don't know what amounts to a hill of beans about how the credit crisis emerged and was then allowed to bleed out into a global economic collapse. There were no attempts AT ALL by Republicans to address any aspects of actual GSE operations. Every single ploy they tried was an attempt to constrain the volume of GSE operations so as to wedge them out of the secondary mortgage markets, these efforts undertaken as a favor to their buddies at all those now defunct Wall Street investment banks who wanted to have the whole sandbox to play in by themselves as they proceeded to dump worse and worse crap into those markets in exchange for ever larger profits and bonuses. It is these people and their laissez-faire Republican enablers in the Executive Branch whose "ilk" a knowledgeable person would be upset over. But you aren't a member of that group. Go learn something, then come back and try to offer an analysis. The GSE's themsleves played a minor role in this fiasco, and the bulk of that came after the real damage had already been done. You'd have known that if you'd been following along...
If you think that the GSE's holding over 50% of the mortgage market--a lot of it subprime--constitutes a minor role in this debacle then you haven't learned anything, either.
That would be because you don't know what amounts to a hill of beans about how the credit crisis emerged and was then allowed to bleed out into a global economic collapse. There were no attempts AT ALL by Republicans to address any aspects of actual GSE operations. Every single ploy they tried was an attempt to constrain the volume of GSE operations so as to wedge them out of the secondary mortgage markets, these efforts undertaken as a favor to their buddies at all those now defunct Wall Street investment banks who wanted to have the whole sandbox to play in by themselves as they proceeded to dump worse and worse crap into those markets in exchange for ever larger profits and bonuses. It is these people and their laissez-faire Republican enablers in the Executive Branch whose "ilk" a knowledgeable person would be upset over. But you aren't a member of that group. Go learn something, then come back and try to offer an analysis. The GSE's themsleves played a minor role in this fiasco, and the bulk of that came after the real damage had already been done. You'd have known that if you'd been following along...
So you're saying that the dems had no hand in what's happened? That would mean that for the last several years while in control of congress they watched while those evil republicans did all this right? Which is worse, doing it or sitting by while doing nothing and watching it happen?
As for Barney, I find it very disrespectfull and frankly condisending/elitist to sit there and manicure yourself while holding a conversation and millions are watching.
If you think that the GSE's holding over 50% of the mortgage market--a lot of it subprime--constitutes a minor role in this debacle then you haven't learned anything, either.
The 50% is an all-time cumulative position -- it is a stock, not a flow. The GSE's actual marketshare had been driven below 25% as the Wall Street spree spun out of any reasonable control. As for "a lot of it subprime", how much do you consider to be a lot? Prior to 2003, the GSE's purchased trickles of subprime, and even as they did later react to pressure from the likes of Countrywide to lower standards, from Congress to support low-income housing, and from stockholders to get in on some of those fabulous profits that Wall Street was making, their purchases were never a major component of that $5 trillion or so worth of holdings that your 50% represents.
You're just going to have to face up to the fact that it wasn't the GSE's that drove us off the cliff. It wasn't CRA or Barney Frank or Chris Dodd either. Do your homework and you'll eventually realize that these are all just cover stories made up out of whole cloth to be pushed off onto those not knowledgeable enough to be anything more than gullible. Here's some suggested light reading to get you started...
I would hardly call any of Iran's neighbors sterling examples of democracy. Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan? You can't be serious.
Never said they were, and they don't have to be. Lebanon just had elections and did not elect a terrorist organization to power, Saddam is dead and al Qaeda is on the run. Now the people of Iran want what their neighbors have. In fact, they want it bad enough to die for it. Just can't bring yourself to admit Bush was right? I remember the talk about invading Iran because an Iran with nuclear weapons was "unacceptable". You know where I heard that word used? The Democratic primary debates. They all agreed that Iran possesing nuclear weapons could never be allowed. Well, now that problem may very well resolve itself due to the wise decisions of one GWB.
No, he's not serious... he has no clue about the Middle East and is parroting Krauthammer and the other neocons who think democracy can be exported by force... somehow they believe that everything in the world can be controlled by US actions... like if Obama condemns Iran, the thugs will stop shooting.
Well, you're wrong Jean Dixon. It really doesn't matter what BO does because everyone involved realizes he's a stuffed shirt with a thin resume and an extreme misunderstanding of his ability to change the world with his stupid speeches.
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