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Old 07-09-2009, 02:25 PM
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Edit: How the hell do you post links at this forum?!!

I've always been able to simply copy and paste the address.

Your Glen Beck link works, but the other one gives a 404 error messgae.
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Old 07-09-2009, 02:38 PM
 
Location: California
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Two thoughts: 1. this guy loves labels. 2. there is an official "negro" card?
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Old 07-09-2009, 02:42 PM
 
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My Google skills are just fine. The links you posted are the ones to which I referred in my OP. None of them provide any way to validate Jerome Hudson's existence - including Beck's website.

You'll have to do better....
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Old 07-09-2009, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Philly, Philly
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First, what is a typical black male? I know a lot of black males and each and everyone of them is different. If you mean a typical black male thats portrayed on TV....then you may have a point.

Second, I agree with some of his sentiments. I applaud him in standing firm with what he believes in.
But, being a black woman who went to college with black men, I can assure you that we all were brought up with strong Christian values. I may not have had my mother and father in the same home, but my family as a whole took care of me, and I know many college educated black people who have been raised in a single parent home. So lets not go there.

From my point of view, my mother never told me I had to be a democrat. I turned 18 in 2004, and that was my first experience ever voting. She let me form my own opinions, just as in this election, I read everything imaginable about both candidates and I formed my own opinion.

And some of the things that turned me off from being a republican is 1) The GOP base uses religion as an excuse for everything, even things I know Jesus would be ashamed of. They use Gods words and sometimes twist them into what they want it to mean. I can not stand for that. 2) Racism (stereotyping, generalizing, prejudice) is what many not all, resort to, whan they have nothing intelligent left to say. Also, using black people who agree with their agenda as a messiah and above other blacks, but if they saw that person walking down the street, would hold their purse tighter, or move out of the way. 3) Above all being hyporcritical with small government, yet wanting the government to interven when its conveinent for them. 4) Not giving a rats bottom about the poor, especially poor children.
Let me point out that Jesus cared about the poor, no matter the circumstances.
These are my reasons for being a democrat and if that make me apart of the 95% then so be it. Im not ashamed.

Last edited by LoveMiiorHateMii; 07-09-2009 at 02:51 PM.. Reason: Added a little something
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:34 PM
 
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Lieberman is an envirohippie and liberal on economic matters.

Plus he supports WAR so he's definitely on the neo-liberal side.
Damn..you guys will make shyt up in a heartbeat and pretend like it's fact...neo-liberal..lol. Nobody with liberal in his title would stand behind McCain and the Quitter.
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Old 07-09-2009, 06:37 PM
 
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First, what is a typical black male? I know a lot of black males and each and everyone of them is different. If you mean a typical black male thats portrayed on TV....then you may have a point.

Second, I agree with some of his sentiments. I applaud him in standing firm with what he believes in.
But, being a black woman who went to college with black men, I can assure you that we all were brought up with strong Christian values. I may not have had my mother and father in the same home, but my family as a whole took care of me, and I know many college educated black people who have been raised in a single parent home. So lets not go there.

From my point of view, my mother never told me I had to be a democrat. I turned 18 in 2004, and that was my first experience ever voting. She let me form my own opinions, just as in this election, I read everything imaginable about both candidates and I formed my own opinion.

And some of the things that turned me off from being a republican is 1) The GOP base uses religion as an excuse for everything, even things I know Jesus would be ashamed of. They use Gods words and sometimes twist them into what they want it to mean. I can not stand for that. 2) Racism (stereotyping, generalizing, prejudice) is what many not all, resort to, whan they have nothing intelligent left to say. Also, using black people who agree with their agenda as a messiah and above other blacks, but if they saw that person walking down the street, would hold their purse tighter, or move out of the way. 3) Above all being hyporcritical with small government, yet wanting the government to interven when its conveinent for them. 4) Not giving a rats bottom about the poor, especially poor children.
Let me point out that Jesus cared about the poor, no matter the circumstances.
These are my reasons for being a democrat and if that make me apart of the 95% then so be it. Im not ashamed.

I'm confused.

Why would you "applaud" a young man for "standing firm with what he believes in" if his beliefs (according to you) involve using "religion as an excuse for everything, even things (you know) Jesus would be ashamed of." And on top of that, supports a racist hypocrite party that doesn't give "a rat's bottom about the poor?"

If that is what it means to be a Republican, what is there to applaud? Do you seriously believe that there are no Christians in the GOP?

There are lots of people (of all races) who voted for Obama and are happy with their decision. They wanted and expected bigger government, high taxes and more entitlements in exchange for some personal freedom (And if that's what you wanted, be pleased because that's what you're getting).

There are others who voted for Obama who are seeing his policies as far more socialist than anticipated, they are growing more and more concerned with where his policies may lead us - and that includes die hard Democrats. On the other hand, there are some moderate Republicans who think Obama has the right ideas.

At any rate, I guess my point is to keep an open mind. Vote for the candidate who speaks for you - regardless of party .
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Philly, Philly
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I'm confused.

Why would you "applaud" a young man for "standing firm with what he believes in" if his beliefs (according to you) involve using "religion as an excuse for everything, even things (you know) Jesus would be ashamed of." And on top of that, supports a racist hypocrite party that doesn't give "a rat's bottom about the poor?"

If that is what it means to be a Republican, what is there to applaud? Do you seriously believe that there are no Christians in the GOP?
There are lots of people (of all races) who voted for Obama and are happy with their decision. They wanted and expected bigger government, high taxes and more entitlements in exchange for some personal freedom (And if that's what you wanted, be pleased because that's what you're getting).

There are others who voted for Obama who are seeing his policies as far more socialist than anticipated, they are growing more and more concerned with where his policies may lead us - and that includes die hard Democrats. On the other hand, there are some moderate Republicans who think Obama has the right ideas.

At any rate, I guess my point is to keep an open mind. Vote for the candidate who speaks for you - regardless of party .
I applaud him because I know that it must be hard for him to face being labeled and he is standing up for what he believes even when people especially other black men might not understand.

To the part I bolded....ummm what?

Im confused to your whole post because I simply stated that from reading and understanding things about both side of the parties, my resonings for not being a republican, are what I posted above. Those are my sentiments...and if someone doesn't like it then.....
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Danville, Ca
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First, what is a typical black male? I know a lot of black males and each and everyone of them is different. If you mean a typical black male thats portrayed on TV....then you may have a point.

Second, I agree with some of his sentiments. I applaud him in standing firm with what he believes in.
But, being a black woman who went to college with black men, I can assure you that we all were brought up with strong Christian values. I may not have had my mother and father in the same home, but my family as a whole took care of me, and I know many college educated black people who have been raised in a single parent home. So lets not go there.

From my point of view, my mother never told me I had to be a democrat. I turned 18 in 2004, and that was my first experience ever voting. She let me form my own opinions, just as in this election, I read everything imaginable about both candidates and I formed my own opinion.

And some of the things that turned me off from being a republican is 1) The GOP base uses religion as an excuse for everything, even things I know Jesus would be ashamed of. They use Gods words and sometimes twist them into what they want it to mean. I can not stand for that. 2) Racism (stereotyping, generalizing, prejudice) is what many not all, resort to, whan they have nothing intelligent left to say. Also, using black people who agree with their agenda as a messiah and above other blacks, but if they saw that person walking down the street, would hold their purse tighter, or move out of the way. 3) Above all being hyporcritical with small government, yet wanting the government to interven when its conveinent for them. 4) Not giving a rats bottom about the poor, especially poor children.
Let me point out that Jesus cared about the poor, no matter the circumstances.
These are my reasons for being a democrat and if that make me apart of the 95% then so be it. Im not ashamed.
I had a few african american friends who wanted to join in the festivities of the last election with the republicans but gave up because they did not feel welcome. They were stared at and treated as though they were strange or weird. I know when I looked at all the campaign stops McCain made I didnt see any people of color. Some people actually pointed and whispered. It seems as if the republicans need to be more inclusive and reach out to more.
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Old 07-09-2009, 08:55 PM
 
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My Google skills are just fine. The links you posted are the ones to which I referred in my OP. None of them provide any way to validate Jerome Hudson's existence - including Beck's website.

You'll have to do better....

Then ask him:

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Old 07-09-2009, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Here is a reproduction of a letter from a young, black conservative man to Glenn Beck. If that name offends you don't both reading the letter because this young man is not a typical young, black man.


While attending a black fraternity party, I recently learned it’s a bad idea to profess one’s affinity for Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity.

Worse, according to current polls, it appears I may be the only black 22 year old in America who will be voting for Sen. John McCain.

It’s not that I was unaware that being a black conservative Republican puts me in the ultimate “minority.” After all, Shelby Steele’s classic article “ The Loneliness of the Black Conservative” has become an article of faith that I’ve all but committed to memory.

But I guess I had made the mistake of buying into all that liberal yammering about being “open minded” and supporting “diversity” that I’d deluded myself into believing that a civil, discussion about the herd-like ideological mentality of so many of my contemporaries suffer from was possible.

Boy, was I wrong. Big time!

My official “Negro” card got stripped away. I instantly lost my “blackness.” And now, consequently, I now am greeted with this: “Hey, y’all, here comes The Black Republican.”

And that’s when I think to myself, Hmmm…so this is how it feels to be an "Uncle Tom."

Still, being labeled “The Black Republican” is undoubtedly a promotion from: "Hey, why are you dressed so nice? You got a job interview or something?" Or, worse, “Man, why are you talking like that? You sound white? Who do you think you are? A conservative Kanye West?”



But my path to ideological emancipation began where all the most important things always begin—with my father and mother. Growing up, my Army drill sergeant father was a firm believer in tough love. My parents instilled in us Christian values. But I believe that first part—having an involved mother and father—was critical. With 70% of all black babies being born out-of-wedlock, it’s no wonder black poverty remains entrenched, welfare has become a way of life, and that many of my fellow young black male counterparts choose gangsta life over college.

But it wasn’t until college that I realized I had been ensnared in what John McWhorter calls the “Cult of Victimology.” One of my professor’s pointed me toward a world of literature I’d never been introduced to: Thomas Sowell, John McWhorter, Shelby Steele, Star Parker, Angela McGlowan, Larry Elder, Walter Williams—they obliterated the Leftist foolishness that floods my community.

It was then that my eyes were opened to the truth, a truth that my father was willing to give his life for, a truth that hundreds of thousands of American soldiers have paid the ultimate price to pass on to future generations. And that truth is this: America remains the greatest country that God gave to man.

So imagine me, a member of various organizations that largely consist of young black Americans, most of whom are womb to the tomb Democrats and liberals, speaking openly about the many opportunities and blessings we enjoy in our great nation and refuting Michelle Obama’s supposition that America is a “downright mean place..”

Can you say…..social suicide?

"So Jerome,” the partygoers asked, “you’re REALLY a Republican?!"

Duh!

Of course I’m a Republican! And your great grandparents were too!



Yes, I’m a member of the Anti-Slavery Party, the party responsible for: the 13th (abolished slavery), 14th (gave former slaves full citizenship rights), the 15th Amendment (gave slaves voting rights), the Civil Rights Act of 1871(protecting southern blacks from the Ku Klux Klan), the Reconstruction Acts, and the 1866, 1875, 1957, 1960, and 1964 Civil Rights Acts.

And no, my brothers and sisters, yesterday’s southern Democrats are NOT today’s Republicans! If so, former Klansman, Sen. Robert Byrd—the highest ranking senate Democrat and President Pro-Tempore of the Senate—apparently didn’t get the memo and forgot to switch parties.

But it’s more than just the history. I’m proud to stand for self-empowerment, personal responsibility, strong family values, small government, low taxes, free markets, a strong military, and individual achievement etc.

And don’t even get me started on which side stands up for the precious 1.4 million unborn children (32% of whom are black), who will be casualties in the war inside the womb. When I see these so-called “black leaders” bashing conservatives for “racist policies,” I wonder how they justify cheering on the political team who proudly defends the annihilation of 13 million black children since 1973.

And conservatives don’t care about black people? I don’t think so!

No, I think I’ll ride with the team who says enough with the welfare cancer that has destroyed people’s innate desire to achieve. Yes, I’ll ride with the folks who respect me enough to consider me their equal and not insult me with Affirmative Action racism. Yeah, I’ll ride with the gang who would rather create effective policies than emotional “feel good” symbolism that robs individuals of their desire to aspire.

So while it may take a little getting used to walking into college parties where I’m known as “The Black Republican,” I now realize I am a newly inducted member of a rich tradition of ideologically emancipated black conservatives. And guess what? I’m more than cool with that. I’m proud, actually.

“The conservative Kanye West”?

Hmmm….

Has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it?

Jerome Hudson is a sophomore at Tallahassee Community College with plans to transfer to Florida A&M University in the fall.


http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/we...jsrand=7743251
Sorry Ray, but I just clicked on that link and it worked for me. I thought about putting it down again but remembered that I didn't get that thing from Yahoo. Ah no, that came from Glenn Beck in an e-mail to me from him. I wonder why it works for me and not for you. Could it be because I want it to?
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