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since this is a American forum many Americans know somebody who is gay in their lives already.Why would you want to convert somebody who is quite aware of their sexuality?
Not trying to be rude,but what do you mean by an "evolutionary change" ?
Evolution hits certain dead ends. Genes mutate trying to get to a better form, natural selection roots out the ones that don't pan out. Homosexuality is just another avenue of evolution. Its obviously a dead end, but its still one of the mutations we've taken.
Well, makes a great song but is ridiculous to consider prayer a valid reason, as well as "therapy", all it is is behavior modification and repression of sexual impulses and desires.
I suppose if you wanted to you could suppress the behavior, but I would consider it more the result of learning mental coping techniques than anything therapy is really gonna offer.
Another indicator of how absurd it is to try and alter someones natural impulses and feelings.
Well, makes a great song but is ridiculous to consider prayer a valid reason, as well as "therapy", all it is is behavior modification and repression of sexual impulses and desires.
I suppose if you wanted to you could suppress the behavior, but I would consider it more the result of learning mental coping techniques than anything therapy is really gonna offer.
Another indicator of how absurd it is to try and alter someones natural impulses and feelings.
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What amazes me is that people act as though homosexuality is something that was invented by hippies back in the '60s. People aren't taught about the Greek ideal love or Sappho...when the earliest humans had a hormonal surge, I doubt that they were Victorian in their sexual practices.
I didn't read the entire medical statement, does this mean that they will consider revoking the "certificate" (using the organization's logo) of the doctors? Licensure is a state thing, so they probably couldn't pull their licenses.
If so does this mean that Rep (crazy lady) Michelle Bachmann's husband will need to look for a new line of work. IIRC he's in the "convert them" (rip off) racket.
If so does this mean that Rep (crazy lady) Michelle Bachmann's husband will need to look for a new line of work. IIRC he's in the "convert them" (rip off) racket.
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Didnt know that but it helps explain the fervor of his wife. That fervor can pay big dividends for them both since it sounds like the couple both can peddle snake oil to their flocks convincingly. At least the nutty Republican seems successful at it. I also know that if her district is anything like mine its a no brainer/n o contest Republican shoo in.
Okay back on topic: I also believe that the reason gay marriage is kept illegal is because once statistics are compiled that show those couples may divorce less than hetero couples it will legitimize homosexuality and they dont want that to happen . It is the judgmental Christian right (some of them) who have tried to make homosexuality immoral in the first place, and many of these people are the worst adulterers and perverts out there
Didnt know that but it helps explain the fervor of his wife. That fervor can pay big dividends for them both since it sounds like the couple both can peddle snake oil to their flocks
Michele Bachmann denies that her husband is doing any "conversion therapy", and there's nothing about it on his website. Since there's no evidence that they are in that business (other than rumors), I believe them.
Regarding their financial situation, it appears that the Bachmanns may not be doing very well. I came across a list of the richest and poorest members of Congress yesterday. They had her listed as one of the poorest in 2007 - in fact, according to this list, she is (was?) broke:
Yes there are conservative psychologists and they will practice and impose their beliefs however they want to despite what the APA agrees on. You have to consider the handfuls of Christian psychologists or bigots that are out there. Highly educated status doesn't take away your bigotry it only intensifies your status and power over others
I don't know whether its something that can be changed or not. No amount of therapy could change the way I feel about a hot girl in a bikini. That being said, their is a biological reason for me to feel that way: reproduce and propagate the human species.
It does seem that if this were truly possible, many homosexuals would line up for the therapy simply because life seems to be a lot more difficult as a homosexual.
I don't know whether its something that can be changed or not. No amount of therapy could change the way I feel about a hot girl in a bikini. That being said, their is a biological reason for me to feel that way: reproduce and propagate the human species.
There actually could be biological reasons to explain homosexuality, assuming that it's normal and what nature intended for some people. One popular hypothesis is that it's a form of population control. Nature simply doesn't need for everybody to produce offspring. There's no shortage of heterosexuals willing and able to reproduce. A related hypothesis is that it's a way to provide "helpers" for a family or a community who aren't burdened with their own children. In fact, the more boys a woman has, the greater the chances that the boy will turn out homosexual. Since it's likely that the mother's children will reproduce, there's logic to the idea that the youngest son could be designed as a "helper" for his older brothers.
Another hypothesis - a controversial one - is that nature deselects certain individuals from reproducing who, for some reason, are unfit for reproduction. I don't know of any studies that would support this, but to me, the idea seems plausible. Of course, the same could be said of heterosexual men who are sterile and heterosexual women who are infertile, so this deselection might not be unique to homosexuals, assuming it's even a valid explanation to start with.
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It does seem that if this were truly possible, many homosexuals would line up for the therapy simply because life seems to be a lot more difficult as a homosexual.
I would say that life is definitely more challenging for the majority of homosexuals - more for the men than for the women - but especially while growing up. Feeling different brings a certain level of stress on its own, but feeling shame, ridicule, and a need to hide those differences can make life much more stressful.
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