THIS is why you should READ THE BILL.. the LIES out there are INSANE!! Breakdown by lie & Line with TRUTH! (constitution, best)

[compJockey]

Originally Posted by nebulous1

Illegals come here to work. They come here of their own free will. They have children here of their own free will.

Gee, you dismiss that they have a brain.

If I went to Mexico illegally, I would not get free healthcare, and I would be put in prison.

Your sense of "compassion" is weakness, and you should care for all of the Americans who need help, not illegals.

Why are you siding with illegals??

PolitiFact | No free health care for illegal immigrants in the health bill

[nebulous1]

Originally Posted by compJockey

Really.
Didn't get that little nugget of wisdom from an anonymous email did you?

PolitiFact | No free health care for illegal immigrants in the health bill

Does it scare you to think average Americans can just access information and discern it?

By the way I am an independent, and I don't suck up to any party.
Your Politifact is wrong.

[delusianne]

Originally Posted by MotleyCrew

I find it interesting that the Democrats are removing the "end of life" section of the bill. If this was a lie as indicated by T.M then why remove it?

The Senate Finance Committee is 50% D and 50% R.

The voluntary end-of-life counseling provision is being removed as a result of the monumental hissyfits pitched in the town hall meetings.

[nebulous1]

Read the WHOLE article. Newsmax.com - Obama Health Plan to Cover 12 Million Illegals (http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/obama_illegals_healthcare/2009/07/19/237484.html - broken link)

[compJockey]

Originally Posted by nebulous1

Does it scare you to think average Americans can just access information and discern it?

It scares me that they can't.

By the way I am an independent, and I don't suck up to any party.

I don't remember asking.

Your Politifact is wrong.

A fine argument, with so much evidence in support.

[nebulous1]

So saying they won't give them coverage is just what we have now. They don't ask anyone if they are an illegal alien when they give them Medicaid. But just go down to your Department of Economic Security and take a seat. You'll find out.

[delusianne]

Originally Posted by nebulous1

Read the WHOLE article. Newsmax.com - Obama Health Plan to Cover 12 Million Illegals (http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/obama_illegals_healthcare/2009/07/19/237484.html - broken link)

Ah, Newsmax....

That's the Heller amendment. It would have required further eligibility screening beyond what's are already in place.

[compJockey]

Originally Posted by nebulous1

Read the WHOLE article. Newsmax.com - Obama Health Plan to Cover 12 Million Illegals (http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/obama_illegals_healthcare/2009/07/19/237484.html - broken link)

Do you realize that your "proof" is based on something that was NOT included?

Its simple fear-mongering, based on nothing.

[nebulous1]

Originally Posted by compJockey

It scares me that they can't.


I don't remember asking.


A fine argument, with so much evidence in support.

And what IS your alleged point?

[nebulous1]

Originally Posted by delusianne

Ah, Newsmax....

That's the Heller amendment. It would have required further eligibility screening beyond what's are already in place.

You really want to believe that politicians have your best interests in mind, don't you?