Violence breaks out at Florida "town hall" healthcare meeting (unemployment, Congress)

[OrlandoRE_Miracle]

Healthcare reform sparks meeting mayhem | 10connects.com | Tampa, St. Petersburg, Clearwater

[mango23]

Originally Posted by OrlandoRE_Miracle

Healthcare reform sparks meeting mayhem | 10connects.com | Tampa, St. Petersburg, Clearwater

No matter how loud lies and hate is shouted the truth speaks louder. I was at one of these in Hollywood a Nelsons office. I had to leave because I carry a gun and may have shot one of these people. They could care less about health care. There was a bus down the street that brought them. They are paid agitators along with a few uneducated morons who jump on any band wagon as long as they can cause trouble. It is much like we saw in the 60's when they tried to beat down the blacks with lies and intimidation. It is what Hitler used to beat down the people as his lies were spread. It takes very little research to expose the Republican lies. Any objective person with half a brain can find the true information. You should see most of these people. They are one step away from inbreeds. They can't say anything other then what they have on pieces of paper they have been given.
Just the other day in Boca area they crashed a meeting that was nothing more then a bunch of elderly who meet every month to discuss and learn about Social Security issues. They people are just pure hate and fear mongers. They scared the hell out of these old people who had no idea what was going on.

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[OrlandoRE_Miracle]

I'm wondering if someone is going to get killed at one of these soon.

[mango23]

Originally Posted by OrlandoRE_Miracle

I'm wondering if someone is going to get killed at one of these soon.

Yes, absolutely. Nothing is being discussed about health care at those meetings. It is nothing more then hate speech and lies being shouted that has nothing to do with issues. Someone will be killed before this is over, it is just a matter how many. The republicans are promoting a race war. Although I have no real affiliation, I am on mailing lists as a republican to see what is being sent out. They come just short of suggesting bombings. Just as a learning experience register with a few of these republican sites and you will see what real hate is.

It is so easy to appeal to the ignorant. It is hard to believe today with all the information we have access to there are still people who are so uninformed. I don't really care what people believe as long as it is their own informed decision.

[floridasandy]

that is just nonsense. people have a right to express how they feel about the health care bill. i am definitely against the health care bill and nobody is organizing me to protest or paying me to protest. we do not need to pile illegal immigrants into our healthcare system. that will not help ONE AMERICAN WORKER.

[OrlandoRE_Miracle]

I'm in favor of health care reform. I would support people buying it on the private market it that actually worked, and the premium could be capped at something reasonable for most people like $100/month. But as anyone who buys it as an individual knows the premiums keep spiraling until it becomes unaffordable. Mine is going up to about $250/month soon. I'm not sure if it's viable to keep it provided by private insurers in the long haul. What I'm really concerned about is that one the of the bills is going to prevent private insurers from discriminating against pre-existing conditions. That's great for those people, don't get me wrong, but that won't solve the problem. Once those people are in the private market it will just drive up the premiums for everyone else who buys an individual policy. The simplest way is just to have the government take over the systems, IMO, not these compromises.

[floridasandy]

i know that we have a surplus of labor in this country, thus the rising unemployment.

i know that we have a recession in this country, thus the negative GDP growth.

i know that our country cannot afford to absorb illegal immigrants into our healthcare system from a financial perspective. WHAT DO YOU KNOW DIFFERENT?

[Broker Dave]

Originally Posted by mango23

I had to leave because I carry a gun and may have shot one of these people.

Don't know if I would have printed this.

There are pros and cons on both sides of the health care issue.

[mikey2]

It is hard to believe today with all the information we have access to there are still people who are so uninformed. I don't really care what people believe as long as it is their own informed decision.

That is so true. You would think with things like Twitter, E-mail, etc. we'd be able to get information out and organize people better. The corporate media is worse that useless and only tells one side of the story.

60% of all doctors and over 160,000 nurses favor a single payer system, yet we hear nothing about it in the corporate media. All that would need to happen is to systematically expand the Medicare program to all citizens.

Having "affordable" healthcare like the administration is proposing would be nice, but the insurance companies, who are in total control of the politicians, will never stand for it because they'll have to cut their rates (and that will cost billions of dollars in profit). "Affordable" is the kind of "slippery" term that politicans love.

Here's the rub:

If you took thieving insurance companies out of the loop:

--you'd save $400 billion a year in profits.
--drastically lower the cost of healthcare overall.
--Cover every American (Just not illegal aliens).
-- Negotiate cheaper rates for Pharmaceuticals.
--Have everyone able to pick whichever doctor or hospital they choose.
--Take employer out the the terrible spot of having them deal with/and pay in part for health care for their employees. They could immediately become more profitable and hire more employees as they grow their business.

The U.S. spends double what other industrialized countries spend on healthcare yet is rated "39th" in the world.

Check this link out to hear what one Corporate Insurance whistleblower has to say:

"They Dump the Sick to Satisfy Investors": Insurance Exec Turned Whistleblower Wendell Potter Speaks Out Against Healthcare Industry

Mikey

[beachmouse]

Originally Posted by OrlandoRE_Miracle

I'm wondering if someone is going to get killed at one of these soon.

There's at least one congressman that's gotten reportedly credible death threats over the health care bill, and a group also burned an effigy of Allen Boyd (FL-2) a few days back. I would not be too surprised to see shots fired soon, given how certain people seem to be stirring up a mob mentality right now.