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CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. - Alonzo Heyward carried a rifle around his low-rent Chattanooga neighborhood one day last month, ranting about suicide and ignoring the pleas of friends for hours before six city police officers surrounded him on his front porch and decided it had to end.
His father says Heyward told the officers, "I'm not out here to hurt anybody."
This is a sad case, one that will probably cause harm for a long time to come. I don't think that man wanted to commit suicide via cop, and at the same time I don't think the cops wanted to shot that man. It sounds like the situation got out of hand very quickly and the police responded with their training. Hind sight is always clearer, and everyone needs to understand that they were not there, and we really have no idea what happened that early morning.
My only criticism would be towards the officers who reloaded and began shooting again, they need more training and maybe some counseling before they should be back on patrol.
My guess is after they were unable to subdue him with the stun gun that there was some belief on their part that he was on drugs. That is usually the assumption in such cases. When a person is hopped up on drugs, there is no telling what they will do and often times that many bullets are required to stop them from being a threat.
A case here last year where someone shot in self defense, he shot twice. The first shot put the man on the ground, then he shot again and killed him. He was charged because the first shot was in self-defense but not the second. The police should be held to the same standard.
It's interesting that the police got such itchy trigger fingers in these situations when they switched to high cap semi-auto pistols from revolvers.
A case here last year where someone shot in self defense, he shot twice. The first shot put the man on the ground, then he shot again and killed him. He was charged because the first shot was in self-defense but not the second. The police should be held to the same standard.
It's interesting that the police got such itchy trigger fingers in these situations when they switched to high cap semi-auto pistols from revolvers.
That's very unfortunate (the self-defense story you mentioned). In self-defense classes, you're taught to shoot to "stop the threat." However, the threat doesn't really stop unless the subject is killed. Why? Because, if that person lives, he and his lawyer have the option to tell lies to a jury. Shoot to kill if you're going to pull the trigger. The person in your example learned this the hard way. In my house, if i'm pulling the trigger, someone's not walking away from it.
With that being said, 59 rounds seems pretty excessive for one individual.
Asked why they shot him 59 times, "because thats all the bullits they had"
ROFLMAO haha if he really said that....would have been funnier if they did not kill the guy and missed every shot. Police State get ready for it, these guys, have seriously forgot their role is to protect and serve, they need to drop the Ego. You may not have agreed with the Professor Gates issue, but it is really not a reflection on cop/race relations, but more of a reflection of cops ever growing ego. Less overall crime has given these guys a lot of free time and they've become a wee-bit to arrogant and cocky. (IMO)
Where did the article say they attempted to subdue him with stun gun?
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Originally Posted by Lindsey_Mcfarren
My guess is after they were unable to subdue him with the stun gun that there was some belief on their part that he was on drugs. That is usually the assumption in such cases. When a person is hopped up on drugs, there is no telling what they will do and often times that many bullets are required to stop them from being a threat.
I think our cops are watching too many cop shows on TV. Too bad they don't shoot as well as Cain on CIS Miami. He takes the time to aim. Also the script writers are on his side. Knowing how to aim and taking the time to do it is a very important part of learning how to use a handgun.
Maybe cops should carry short barreled shot guns. They reduce the need for accuracy but can really mess up anything near by. If you use slugs you are back to the aiming problem. IMHO cop that cannot show that they know how to use a gun in a realistic combat test should not be allowed to carry one. Unlike civilians, cops are supposed to be trained to use firearms. Using 59 shots to kill a man in the open is a real disaster for the police force involved as well as for the criminal’s family.
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