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"Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC
If every country was alike, you'd have no reason to travel to Denmark.
Aren't Democrats supposedly the party of diversity? Now you want us to emulate a country twice the size of Massachussets? LOL Whatever floats your boat."
needs to be?
And while we are on the subject of oversimplification:
"If learning from the rest of the world were so easy, we'd already have done it if it worked for us. In fact, if learning from our own States were so simple, it would have already been done."
Ya think?
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You can chalk it up to arrogance if you want, but you're ignoring the two very different societies of Denmark and the United States. Not to mention a 325 million disparity in population. Scope and scale alone makes the comparison far from equitable.
Well of course you are right, providing an equitable standard of living in a country which ranks 11th in GDP per capita with a nation that ranks 4th, Denmark and the U.S. respectively, surely would suggest that the U.S. is incapable of providing the same quality of life of a nation like Denmark "scope and scale" speaking of course..
1. What they pay in taxes, which covers a list of civic and social rights you could not even dream of - you actually pay for at far higher rates here. Only, you have to pay everything separate while you don't even get half the reciprocal from it. So you think you're paying less, when you're actually paying much more.
2. Denmark is by no means densely populated! A huge portion of Scandinavia has people who are self-sufficient and live in the countryside and live on what the wilderness offers. Its far more common than here. I really don't know what on earth you are ranting about. Actually, there is a lot of wide spaces and greenery everywhere. Even the cities are tiny. The entire Denmark, Norway with enormous fjords and mountains, Sweden and Finland have about 1/3 of their nations where people live in the country side in tiny villages, or even miles to the closest village.
3. Regarding healthcare, consider this: 500 million people in Europe are covered by universal healthcare. And it works excellent.
So why are 307 million americans not covered?
Denmark and other socialist countries are great for underachievers, who don't have a shred of guilt for working as little as possible at the expense of those who produce.
America doesn't work that way. America didn't become the greatest economic superpower in the history of the world because those who worked less got things for free from those who worked more.
While Denmark is a great place to be an underachiever, America is the place to become the next Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Michael Dell, etc. America is where you find real life rags-to-riches stories. The system may not seem fair, but capitalism is the system with the greatest opportunity for economic and social mobility.
Spent a few days in Copenhagen and Arhus and I had the greatest experience. I had been doing some research about Denmark especially given the fact that they are overall the happiest people in the world and the most satisfied with their health care system.
Everytime I travel to a different country, I just get this feeling that the US is a very overrated country, it also makes me realize how many lies Americans are told on a daily basis, this whole, "We are the greatest, no one compares to us" is truly a bunch of BS. Beautiful country, very safe, no guns, no homeless people, a very happy bunch of people overall
High taxes, and some evil socialism does not seem to be all that bad after all.
Who's telling you this? Where on a daily basis can I find this?
Do you realize that only 60 or so years ago that wonderful land you idolize so much went through a 25 year period where over 100 million people were butchered or starved and that half it's cities were razed by bombs?
I don't expect a reply from you because I know that that is not your modus operandi.
Denmark and other socialist countries are great for underachievers, who don't have a shred of guilt for working as little as possible at the expense of those who produce.
America doesn't work that way. America didn't become the greatest economic superpower in the history of the world because those who worked less got things for free from those who worked more.
While Denmark is a great place to be an underachiever, America is the place to become the next Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Michael Dell, etc. The system may not seem fair, but capitalism is the system most consistent with human nature.
Underachievers? Most Danes receive public education that is 100 times better than what you received here based on your ignorant statements.
Not everybody is interested in starting million dollar companies and making millions of dollars. What is the point of having all this money if all you can have is 2 weeks of vacation every year, working 12 hours/day.
People have different ideas, the fact that the Danes are overall the happiest people in the world should tell you something about how consistent our system is with human nature, NOT!
Denmark and other socialist countries are great for underachievers, who don't have a shred of guilt for working as little as possible at the expense of those who produce.
I guess that's why Denmark is ranked 3rd for global competitiveness.
In point of interesting fact, those "socialist" countries, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Germany and the Netherlands are all in the top 10.
This is just a comment on living in Europe and really doesn't have much of anything to do with the OP as my opinion of Europe. While I know that the OP is trying to push across his agenda, of which I surely disagree, I have to say this.
I lived in Europe for several years and spoke the language of the particular country I was in. If I could get a job there and move back I would do it in a heartbeat. Europe is a wonderful continent. I suppose I love it so much because of the rich history, the architecture, transportation systems, and overall quaintness of the place. There's something about those narrow cobblestone streets in some of the quaint villages around Europe that I love.
"Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC
If every country was alike, you'd have no reason to travel to Denmark.
Aren't Democrats supposedly the party of diversity? Now you want us to emulate a country twice the size of Massachussets? LOL Whatever floats your boat."
needs to be?
And while we are on the subject of oversimplification:
"If learning from the rest of the world were so easy, we'd already have done it if it worked for us. In fact, if learning from our own States were so simple, it would have already been done."
Ya think?
Well of course you are right, providing an equitable standard of living in a country which ranks 11th in GDP per capita with a nation that ranks 4th, Denmark and the U.S. respectively, surely would suggest that the U.S. is incapable of providing the same quality of life of a nation like Denmark "scope and scale" speaking of course..
Excellent work. You have successfully took part and parcel of my statement, construed it, and conveniently left out the meat of the argument.
This is what I said:
If learning from the rest of the world were so easy, we'd already have done it if it worked for us. In fact, if learning from our own States were so simple, it would have already been done. Democrats have been slobbering over Massachusetts healthcare system. If it's so good, then why haven't other states started a similar program? Because it is wrought with problems and may not work for certain state bureaucracies. The same can be said for other countries.
I suppose the technicalities are too much for you to process. Perhaps you can start a reading comprehension forum?
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Spent a few days in Copenhagen and Arhus and I had the greatest experience. I had been doing some research about Denmark especially given the fact that they are overall the happiest people in the world and the most satisfied with their health care system.
Everytime I travel to a different country, I just get this feeling that the US is a very overrated country, it also makes me realize how many lies Americans are told on a daily basis, this whole, "We are the greatest, no one compares to us" is truly a bunch of BS. Beautiful country, very safe, no guns, no homeless people, a very happy bunch of people overall
High taxes, and some evil socialism does not seem to be all that bad after all.
Don't tell some people that. ...
It intimidates them that another nation can do and is doing better than us on some, if not many fronts. I just think we should be fair to admit that we each have strengths and weaknesses. (speaking of countries).
We must also keep an open mind to facts. Let's be real, we have been slacking overall for some years now (on many fronts). The thing is many countries are moving forward. It's not a bad thing. I call it like it is.
I still love this country, but man enough to know it has its shortcomings like every other country.
I love the way the Right Winger’s assume that a socialist cushion under the down sides of life precludes ambition, productivity and great wealth. IIRC most people will take much larger financial chances if losing cannot result in poverty. I see Denmark and much of the rest of Europe as a place that has replaced financial coercion with a secure environment for all. Without economic fear, people can excel or not as they chose.
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