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City-Data Forum has some very intelligent posters, that can make a point without snide remarks. There is a deep political divide in our country between the North and the South, and between the parties. Quite frankly, I am sick of the name calling and general lack of respect among members for each others opinion.
Why can't the Democrats and Republicans agree? During the Senate debate on the Compromise of 1850, Sam Houston proclaimed, "A nation divided against itself cannot stand". And that folks is exactly where we are. The political parties cannot agree on the time of day let alone on an important decision that will affect the lives of Americans for years to come.
Why can't we agree?
A thread didn't need to be started on this subject, we already know why we disagree, it's as plain and as simple as can be. We democrats get it.
A thread didn't need to be started on this subject, we already know why we disagree, it's as plain and as simple as can be. We democrats get it.
And, I'm not "trolling", this is my opinion.
As one who belongs to no political party, I simply have to ask: What is it that you 'get' that the rest of us apparently don't? See, that's what I meant by my earlier post - everyone needs to be clearer about what they mean in their posts. I can neither agree nor disagree if I don't understand your point, so I ask for clarification.
As one who belongs to no political party, I simply have to ask: What is it that you 'get' that the rest of us apparently don't? See, that's what I meant by my earlier post - everyone needs to be clearer about what they mean in their posts. I can neither agree nor disagree if I don't understand your point, so I ask for clarification.
I am awaiting the explanation as well. If one party "gets it" how come they have not been able to "fix it" - whatever "IT" is. ?????
As one who belongs to no political party, I simply have to ask: What is it that you 'get' that the rest of us apparently don't? See, that's what I meant by my earlier post - everyone needs to be clearer about what they mean in their posts. I can neither agree nor disagree if I don't understand your point, so I ask for clarification.
I dont know how this could ever happen, but a LOT of bandwidth would be saved if definitions of words, histories of political movements were officially laid out somewhere and everyone adhered to those. Thinking of socialist, capitalist, corporatist, communist, fascist, centrist R, centrist D... etc.
But then there would have to be a discussion about the freight behind such words - why is communism terrifying to some and not to others - current events influencing the decided-upon meaning - nuance, etc.
I have noticed with the last couple of administrations of Bush and Obama that they are pushing their agendas to an extreme that is not acceptable to large numbers of people.
Bush used the boggieman of radical Islam to grab more power for the executive than I can ever remember. He trampled more of the Constitution and infringed on more rights than I can ever remember. He never vetoed any spending bill until his last year in office. He got into bed with the religious right and trampled the rights of minority groups such as the GBLT community.
I knew that Bush was pushing the pendulum too far and the farther you push it in one direction the faster and farther it swings in the other direction. I knew the Republicans were going to take a big hit in 2006 and 2008.
Enter Obama who is using the economic crisis to push the pendulum again way too far for most of America. I predict another backlash in 1010 and 2012 with the Dems taking the hit this time.
The strong opinions and vitriolic arguments recently are the result of these administrations governing to the extreme. It seems as though past administrations governed more from the middle. It seems as though recent administrations do not have their thumbs on the pulse of middle America and are pusing things too far and too fast for most of us.
agree about Bush, but how can Obama use the financial crisis as a bogeyman? The FC is real.
also to my great disappointment I agree that the Obama Admin doesnt seem to have its finger on the pulse of middle America. The Bush Admin certainly didnt, but at least they guessed at it and knew what buttons to push to make it respond.
OTOH everyone has the same basic concerns, admin in and admin out. I think the OA needs to speak a lot more clearly to makeits agenda known.
It's also possible they expected more of us -- expected us to think, learn and decide for ourselves.
As one who belongs to no political party, I simply have to ask: What is it that you 'get' that the rest of us apparently don't? See, that's what I meant by my earlier post - everyone needs to be clearer about what they mean in their posts. I can neither agree nor disagree if I don't understand your point, so I ask for clarification.
Please read the other ongoing threads in this forum, and you'll see for yourself the disagreements. President Obama is a marxist, usurper, socialist, Afghanistan is Obama's war of choice, this recession is Obama's fault, Obama is the one who started the bank and wall street bailouts, the list goes on and on. People carrying weapons to town hall meetings just because their allowed to. Democrats staunchly disagree with the republican points of view and opinions, but, we haven't turned to violence as yet, excepting the finger biter off'er. We don't carry weapons with the intent of killing republicans, or our President.
Rules for this debate: No Trolls, No Off Topic, No Nasty Remarks, No Religious Tract, No Racist Remarks - ALL will be removed. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE RULES DO NOT COMMENT.
City-Data Forum has some very intelligent posters, that can make a point without snide remarks. There is a deep political divide in our country between the North and the South, and between the parties. Quite frankly, I am sick of the name calling and general lack of respect among members for each others opinion.
Why can't the Democrats and Republicans agree? During the Senate debate on the Compromise of 1850, Sam Houston proclaimed, "A nation divided against itself cannot stand". And that folks is exactly where we are. The political parties cannot agree on the time of day let alone on an important decision that will affect the lives of Americans for years to come.
Why can't we agree?
Well, as I was told just today by Hawkeye: "he's not the middle ground type". I guess that is just one example of many that could be found on CD.
agree about Bush, but how can Obama use the financial crisis as a bogeyman? The FC is real.
also to my great disappointment I agree that the Obama Admin doesnt seem to have its finger on the pulse of middle America. The Bush Admin certainly didnt, but at least they guessed at it and knew what buttons to push to make it respond.
Maybe the OA is more urban - upscale and downscale.
Radical Islam was, and is, real as well. I'm saying that both admins are using a crisis to push their agandas to an extreme that most of America is not confortable with. Maybe 'boogieman' was the wrong word. I didn't mean to imply that the crisis was not real.
But you're saying Obama is using the FC as a means to accomplish nefarious goals -- how so? Unlessyou believe the public option is a wedge to open the door to socialism, the govt will never sell its GM stake, etc.
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See, that's what I meant by my earlier post - everyone needs to be clearer about what they mean in their posts. I can neither agree nor disagree if I don't understand your point, so I ask for clarification. 
