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Old 09-15-2009, 11:29 AM
 
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<snip>That was not the "majority" of what I saw there.
You posted it had "NOTHING" to do with Birthers...
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:31 AM
 
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I used to dismiss the people who asserted that the root motivation for the tea party protests was racism, but the more I see them in action and realize that they are now outraged at the very actions for which they supported Bush, the less convinced I am of my original belief.

Of course, in our politically correct society anybody who accuses the tea party protesters of racism is automatically charged as race baiting, but when you get beyond their politically correct facade, it's hard to deny that at least a large percentage of these people are simply racists who hold to an outdated notion that this melting pot nation is supposed to be some white Christian bastion.

I guess they were just raised in a more isolated location than me, where they could establish an "us versus them" worldview. When you're raised around people from all over the world from all different religions, you naturally begin to look at the character of the individual and not their religion.
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:33 AM
 
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I used to dismiss the people who asserted that the root motivation for the tea party protests was racism, but the more I see them in action and realize that they are now outraged at the very actions for which they supported Bush, the less convinced I am of my original belief.

Of course, in our politically correct society anybody who accuses the tea party protesters of racism is automatically charged as race baiting, but when you get beyond their politically correct facade, it's hard to deny that at least a large percentage of these people are simply racists who hold to an outdated notion that this melting pot nation is supposed to be some white Christian bastion.

I guess they were just raised in a more isolated location.
WTF??????????
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:35 AM
 
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You posted it had "NOTHING" to do with Birthers...
Hopeless.......
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:38 AM
 
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WTF??????????
Please explain your concern. I edited it to explain myself better. Perhaps that will help you understand my perspective or offer a more intelligent response.

I was raised in a very cosmopolitan environment, so this fear of people of different races and religions is very foreign to me. For years I assumed it was foreign to others as well and that they may well have been motivated by concerns over policy. But, listening to the tea party protesters talk I realize that I simply underestimated how prevalently this fear of "others" remains in the white Christian culture concentrated in suburban and rural areas.
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:42 AM
 
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Hopeless.......
Why do you say that?

You made assertions that the 9/12 March was only about the federal government's usurpation of power. It was pointed out to you that there were other marchers there whose concerns were altogether different. Therefore, the 9/12 March was about multiple issues, including the birthers, including health care reform, including socialism, including tax protests. 70,000 people or thereabouts showed up to each voice their own concerns. You cannot then make an assertion that the event was only about the growth of federal power or executive power, when people attending the event didn't just come for that one reason.
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:43 AM
 
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Please explain your concern. I edited it to explain myself better. Perhaps that will help you understand my perspective or offer a more intelligent response.

I was raised in a very cosmopolitan environment, so this fear of people of different races and religions is very foreign to me. For years I assumed it was foreign to others as well and that they may well have been motivated by concerns over policy. But, listening to the tea party protesters talk I realize that I simply underestimated how prevalently this fear of "others" remains in the white Christian culture concentrated in suburban and rural areas.
So...what you are saying is that everyone who was there on Saturday were either red necks, sheltered all their lives, from the suburbs or some country bumpkin?? Do I have that right???
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:45 AM
 
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Why do you say that?

You made assertions that the 9/12 March was only about the federal government's usurpation of power. It was pointed out to you that there were other marchers there whose concerns were altogether different. Therefore, the 9/12 March was about multiple issues, including the birthers, including health care reform, including socialism, including tax protests. 70,000 people or thereabouts showed up to each voice their own concerns. You cannot then make an assertion that the event was only about the growth of federal power or executive power, when people attending the event didn't just come for that one reason.
They were few and far between compared to the majority in the sea of signs..there are always fringe elements everywhere..you should know that..look at your left wing loons..shall I search the archives for photos to refresh your memory??
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:46 AM
 
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So...what you are saying is that everyone who was there on Saturday were either red necks, sheltered all their lives, from the suburbs or some country bumpkin?? Do I have that right???
He is saying that the movement isn't focused on people upset with "increased federal power", which in and of itself is fairly misguided since it seems people are just upset with the people that are running things (not necessarily the federal government).
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:48 AM
 
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So...what you are saying is that everyone who was there on Saturday were either red necks, sheltered all their lives, from the suburbs or some country bumpkin?? Do I have that right???
I never said everyone of anything. The majority of people involved in this movement are white, Christian, and living in suburban and rural areas. That is simply a fact of demographics and politics (just like most liberal protests are filled with urban people from various races and young people who hold onto their idealism).

Btw - I've lived in rural areas and find it offensive that you use the phrase "country bumpkin" to describe individuals living there. You should spend some time before judging. A lot of enlightened, brilliant people you're dismissing with that phrase.
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