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Old 09-17-2009, 07:45 PM
 
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None of my business really;that is upto the investors.
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Minimum wage w/o benefits.
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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No more than a million a year at most.
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:51 PM
 
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Insurance companies are for profit business so to think they don't deny claims is foolish thinking. The government want stop these practices because insurance companies have lobbyist who keeps this from happening. A CEO should make as much as the board of directors are willing to pay him. I personally think it should be tied to performance not potential. I have no problem with a CEO making big bank if he makes the company profitable. I do have a fundamental problem with CEO's making big bucks as they run the country into the ground. Getting a big bonuses while being a horrible CEO is bad business. To much of it has happened over the years.
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:54 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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As much as the investors believe he is worth.

You cannot put a value on someones salary because not everyone has the same value.

Like Obama, he wants to limit pays to CEO's and that is wrong and none of his business.

So if you want to limit a talented persons pay then we need to remove min wage for bums, unskilled losers who have no talent and expect 6 bucks and hour to just show up late. Lets pay them 2.00 per hour based on having no skills or talent and see what happens.
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:20 AM
 
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Anyone in favor of capping salaries I hope is not a sports fan or watches any movies or TV shows. If you do you may be a hypocrate. Capping is socialist
Capping of salaries for sports teams is voluntary. Both parties agree to it of their own free will.

Socialism would involve mandatory capping. If you don't do what we say then you go to jail.

That's the diffence and someone who watches sports with salary caps is not a hypocrit.
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:50 AM
 
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Some would argue we already have the laws in place, you just have to go to your state insurance regulator or whoever and tell them your insurance company is doing this.
All I can say is good luck.

A lot of times it takes a good lawyer and lots of patience but a lot of times people end up dying before the insurance company pays. I'm sure that plays into why insurance companies do it.
Do you have any examples? Why doesn't the government charge a few of these people with murder? That would stop them.

And we do have laws in place. There is no arguing about it. What you're saying is those laws are ineffective. So, why would you expect any different if we have new laws. If the govt can't effectively enforce the laws on the books already then why should you expect to to be able to do better when they takeover healthcare?

And every poll I have seen shows that 85-91% of people are happy with their private health insurance companies. This would be impossible if they were denying legitimate claims.

I saw something on television last night that it is believed up to 40% of all medical claims that insurance companies pay out are bogus. That is probably true. As people are always trying to rip off the auto and home insurance companies. And then we wonder why our rates are so high. Maybe President Obama should go after these people. They sound like the crooks. How much fraud by consumers will happen once the govt takes over?

Here's another problem with the health care industry. The government subsidizes colleges to turn away medical students. For example, State U is willing and able to accept 50 med students a year. They only accept 25. The feds pay them the tuition difference for the 25 they denied. And the 25 that were rejected met every qualification. There is no reason to think those rejected candidates could not have gone on to be decent doctors. Instead, they are forced into other fields. State U is happy because they got paid for not working.

This policy keeps the number of doctors artifically low. And prices artifically high. Same with mandating coverage. By law, if I want health insurance I have to pay for coverage against diabetes, sickle-cell anemia, sex change operation. Things I will never have to deal with. And if I do I am willing to pay out of pocket. By govt forcing my insurance company to provide these services they are artificially driving up the cost of my premiums. In other words, stealing.

There are a bunch of other government policies that artifically drive up the cost of medical care and insurance. But the dems and repubs in Washington are too dishonest to talk about it.

And they know they can just come out and blame everything on the insurance companies and people will be gullible enough to believe it.
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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what would make you say something like that?

Nita
All the research I've done and if you did some, you'd know that too.
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Do you have any examples? Why doesn't the government charge a few of these people with murder? That would stop them.

And we do have laws in place. There is no arguing about it. What you're saying is those laws are ineffective. So, why would you expect any different if we have new laws. If the govt can't effectively enforce the laws on the books already then why should you expect to to be able to do better when they takeover healthcare?

And every poll I have seen shows that 85-91% of people are happy with their private health insurance companies. This would be impossible if they were denying legitimate claims.

I saw something on television last night that it is believed up to 40% of all medical claims that insurance companies pay out are bogus. That is probably true. As people are always trying to rip off the auto and home insurance companies. And then we wonder why our rates are so high. Maybe President Obama should go after these people. They sound like the crooks. How much fraud by consumers will happen once the govt takes over?

Here's another problem with the health care industry. The government subsidizes colleges to turn away medical students. For example, State U is willing and able to accept 50 med students a year. They only accept 25. The feds pay them the tuition difference for the 25 they denied. And the 25 that were rejected met every qualification. There is no reason to think those rejected candidates could not have gone on to be decent doctors. Instead, they are forced into other fields. State U is happy because they got paid for not working.

This policy keeps the number of doctors artifically low. And prices artifically high. Same with mandating coverage. By law, if I want health insurance I have to pay for coverage against diabetes, sickle-cell anemia, sex change operation. Things I will never have to deal with. And if I do I am willing to pay out of pocket. By govt forcing my insurance company to provide these services they are artificially driving up the cost of my premiums. In other words, stealing.

There are a bunch of other government policies that artifically drive up the cost of medical care and insurance. But the dems and repubs in Washington are too dishonest to talk about it.

And they know they can just come out and blame everything on the insurance companies and people will be gullible enough to believe it.
"California's Real Death Panels" - Data Reveals California's Private Insurers Deny 21% of Claims

RealClearPolitics - The Real Death Panels

Did you not see Sicko where a doctor who worked for an insurance company said she made more money when she denied care to people?
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Old 09-18-2009, 09:21 AM
 
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Do you have any examples? Why doesn't the government charge a few of these people with murder? That would stop them.

And we do have laws in place. There is no arguing about it. What you're saying is those laws are ineffective. So, why would you expect any different if we have new laws. If the govt can't effectively enforce the laws on the books already then why should you expect to to be able to do better when they takeover healthcare?

And every poll I have seen shows that 85-91% of people are happy with their private health insurance companies. This would be impossible if they were denying legitimate claims.

I saw something on television last night that it is believed up to 40% of all medical claims that insurance companies pay out are bogus. That is probably true. As people are always trying to rip off the auto and home insurance companies. And then we wonder why our rates are so high. Maybe President Obama should go after these people. They sound like the crooks. How much fraud by consumers will happen once the govt takes over?

Here's another problem with the health care industry. The government subsidizes colleges to turn away medical students. For example, State U is willing and able to accept 50 med students a year. They only accept 25. The feds pay them the tuition difference for the 25 they denied. And the 25 that were rejected met every qualification. There is no reason to think those rejected candidates could not have gone on to be decent doctors. Instead, they are forced into other fields. State U is happy because they got paid for not working.

This policy keeps the number of doctors artifically low. And prices artifically high. Same with mandating coverage. By law, if I want health insurance I have to pay for coverage against diabetes, sickle-cell anemia, sex change operation. Things I will never have to deal with. And if I do I am willing to pay out of pocket. By govt forcing my insurance company to provide these services they are artificially driving up the cost of my premiums. In other words, stealing. ""

Have you ever considered that the bloated unbelievable wages that CEOs demand MAY just have something to do with the cost of health care insurance???? WHERE does that money come from?

"""There are a bunch of other government policies that artifically drive up the cost of medical care and insurance. But the dems and repubs in Washington are too dishonest to talk about it.

And they know they can just come out and blame everything on the insurance companies and people will be gullible enough to believe it.
Here's an example of CEOs making a profit with their Death Panel:

Froma Harrop: Private insurers’ death panels | Columnists | projo.com | The Providence Journal
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