Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-15-2009, 09:12 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
19,567 posts, read 21,862,853 times
Reputation: 2519

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
If the guy who started the Afghanistan conflict would have finished it instead of neglecting it in order to start another Middle East war, none of this would be necessary.

Very amusing how all of the Bushies now want to "cut and run" though...
How do you think it should have been finished?

What was the goal?

What is the goal now?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-15-2009, 09:13 AM
 
3,153 posts, read 3,592,486 times
Reputation: 1080
I'm glad Obama is listening to his Generals on the ground. That is a good thing...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-15-2009, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
4,792 posts, read 5,898,927 times
Reputation: 3103
Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in SC View Post
Who would you blame?
I blame the turkey neck who started the war in Afghanistan. The US should have addressed the problems in the Israeli/Pali conflict, and skipped Iraq all together.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-15-2009, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Texas
38,859 posts, read 25,521,957 times
Reputation: 24780
Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in SC View Post
How do you think it should have been finished?
Long ago.

Quote:
What was the goal?
Wipe out Al qaeda and topple the Taliban.

Quote:
What is the goal now?
You seem to think it's changed...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-15-2009, 09:18 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
19,567 posts, read 21,862,853 times
Reputation: 2519
Quote:
Originally Posted by wdavid002 View Post
I'm glad Obama is listening to his Generals on the ground. That is a good thing...
What are the USA's policy/goals in Afghanistan?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-15-2009, 09:19 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
19,567 posts, read 21,862,853 times
Reputation: 2519
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peggy Anne View Post
I blame the turkey neck who started the war in Afghanistan. The US should have addressed the problems in the Israeli/Pali conflict, and skipped Iraq all together.
So you opposed the war in Afghanistan from the get go?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-15-2009, 09:21 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
19,567 posts, read 21,862,853 times
Reputation: 2519
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post


Wipe out Al qaeda and topple the Taliban.



You seem to think it's changed...
The Taliban is not in power there,Al Qaeda is scattered around the globe,including in Iraq,should the USA fight them wherever they are found?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-15-2009, 09:30 AM
 
11,135 posts, read 14,187,987 times
Reputation: 3696
Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in SC View Post
Obama = Bush.

Bush did it so Obama can too.



I now understand his supporters 'logic'.

Some here should read this without their partisan blinders on:

Campaign For Liberty — Saving Face in Afghanistan **| by Ron Paul

Well, I think Obama is more like Bush light, but yeah, I can't disagree with you here. This is one of the main reasons I couldn't vote for Obama was his foreign policy was little more than a continuation of Bush policies.

While during the campaign Obama worded much of his speech to keep the liberal wing in the fold, I knew better. Being someone opposed to the Iraq war since before it was waged and now in favor of leaving Afghanistan, I knew long before the election that neither was likely to happen under Obama.

For what it is worth, I think it will end up being the issue of our wars and occupations that makes the chances of Obama being a single term President more likely than even health care or spending. I wouldn't even be surprised if the liberal wing of the Democrat Party decides to run someone against Obama in 2012.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-15-2009, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
4,792 posts, read 5,898,927 times
Reputation: 3103
Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in SC View Post
So you opposed the war in Afghanistan from the get go?
Yes.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-15-2009, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Arizona
13,778 posts, read 9,657,742 times
Reputation: 7485
Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in SC View Post
Generals fight the war,they do not make policy.

What is the USA's policy in Afghanistan?

What are the goals?
Obama has had 6 meetings with his war policy advisors, including his generals, the latest was yesterday. Soon he will make an announcement to the American People concerning the strategy in Afghanistan and answer your question. I would imagine that at that time he will lay out the "goals" or put another way, "what constitutes winning" in Afghanistan and how he plans to achieve it.

As far as my opinion goes, for what it's worth, I originally thought that strictly limiting the amount of troops to the current level and focusing our efforts on Al Qaeda was the proper strategy. But as the Taliban ramp up their attacks in Pakistan I've come to realize that they are a threat as big or bigger than Al Qaeda. The Taliban have recently demonstrated increased, disruptive capabilities in Pakistan and Afghanistan. With Pakistan so unstable and holding approximately 200 nukes I feel that it's important to keep a large presence in the region. Also with the line in the sand we've drawn with Iran, having a large force in that region gives us diplomatic and military options.

In the end, the whole issue is too complex for us laymen to have the definative answers or the right solution. I'm hoping that the combined efforts of the brightest diplomatic and military minds in America can come up with the solution that best represents the interests of the nation and the world.

I do notice a complete 180 by the right wing base pertaining to the Afghani effort. Last week it was, "Listen to the generals, they know best. Obama is a weak leader and can't commit. He's leaving our troops out to dry." Now it's a totally different song they sing. I can only assume they are doing their job, which is to take whichever side of the issue that does the most damage to Obama rather than the best interests of the nation as a whole.

Last edited by mohawkx; 10-15-2009 at 10:02 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top