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Old 10-22-2009, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It looks like you need to learn what "bounds" are.
Because the debt grows based on outlays vs receipts.
Which is most certainly not "without bounds".
Keep raising the ceiling, keep spending the money, keep printing to monetize the deb.

Looks like "without bounds" to me.
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:57 PM
 
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What happened to your claim of 1,000,000 NEW jobs just a second ago?
The term free market does not refer to the stimulus
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:57 PM
 
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Wait, you said they didnt do projections...
No, delicate flower. You've lost track of the distinction between projections and predictions again. Poor thing.

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Really, just stop, the non stop attempted spinning your own lies is giving one a headache..
Wow...a headache, eh. What would one of those do...disrupt your thought processes? I'm not so sure I'd be able to tell...

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Old 10-22-2009, 02:58 PM
 
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Keep raising the ceiling, keep spending the money, keep printing to monetize the deb.

Looks like "without bounds" to me.
That is a comprehension problem you should look into.
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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And exactly what data and methodology did you use in coming up with THAT claim? Was it none at all on two counts?
Eh....obama's own words.

Surely you've read the report they put out when selling the stimulus?
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:07 PM
 
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Ohh stop, you are now pretending that Obama's projections showed that unemployment would reach 10%? Really?
No, not really. Nobody's projections reached 10%, though Obama's did get to about 9.2%, which Republicans at the time said was an exaggeration and an example of his scare tactics. So that means...the numbers that you now claim were too low were first criticized by right-wingers as being too high. A reasonable person might conclude that right-wingers just complain about Obama stuff without any consideration of anything else at all.

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Would these be the same projections that you claimed meaningless because they arent really projections?
You know, it's just too easy after a while...
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:13 PM
 
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Eh....obama's own words. Surely you've read the report they put out when selling the stimulus?
Yes, I read it the morning it came out, but I don't recall seeing the words "every claim about jobs in this report is outrageous and completely false." Maybe you could point to where I missed those.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:11 PM
 
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No, delicate flower. You've lost track of the distinction between projections and predictions again. Poor thing.
It seems that no only do you provide comical humor over trying to spin the failure of the stimulus package, now your attempting to spin defintions of words.

predictions:
forecast, augury, prognostication, divination, projection

Go ahead, pretend they arent the same, but anyone with basic knowledge of the english vocabulary knows otherwise..

Hillary, this is like your husband trying to spin the definition of the word "is"..
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:11 PM
 
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Thats not what you said.. here, let me quote you..

So now they use the same data, the right wing media only assumed that 8% unemployment levels on the charts implied 8%, whereas you are claiming it meant whatever the hell it ends up at, and all of which came from charts which showed projections, that dont really include projections.

Right, we got it.. thanks for the humor..

Saggy is always good for a laugh. Facts are irrelevant to a good liberal, who embraces the "truth is relative" concept of Stalin.

Obama = good

Conservative = bad
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:13 PM
 
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No, not really. Nobody's projections reached 10%, though Obama's did get to about 9.2%,
where are these predictions, I mean projections at? Find me one source to backup the claim that Obama predicted 9.25% unemployment..
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