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Unread 11-15-2009, 11:50 AM
 
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THE WORLD; The President's Inclination: No, It Wasn't a Bow-Bow - The New York Times

This was in defense of Clinton doing a 1/4 bow....
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"But the "thou need not bow" commandment from the State Department's protocol office maintained a constancy of more than 200 years. Administration officials scurried to insist that the eager-to-please President had not really done the unthinkable."
That prompted a stern warning from Miss Manners...

Don't mess with Miss Manners!
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Unread 11-15-2009, 11:54 AM
 
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So tell me then..why in '94 the administration was all over themselves denying that Clinton did a 1/4 bow and today..nothing ? They insisted that Clinton did not break the 200 year old "do not bow" protocol.

They are not even denying it now. They tried the denial with the King but pictures don't lie.
Who cares? Did you miss the part of my post where I asked you for something substantive? Foreign policy is determined through lawmaking and negotiation, not with greetings.
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Unread 11-15-2009, 11:57 AM
 
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Not the question and still merely your opinion, not a fact.
You're right. To those whom a cultural gesture in the host country is seen as "subservient," the bow is indeed a life and death matter. Good luck in 2012.
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Unread 11-15-2009, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Hot Air » Blog Archive » Video: 46 handshakes, one bow

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First, American Presidents do not bow to monarchs, or at least they didn’t through the first 43 Presidents and the 220 years they served as the US head of state. Perhaps a few of them might have done so out of cultural sensitivity when traveling to foreign nations as private citizens, either before or after their terms in office, but not when they represented the United States of America. Even the New York Times knew better than that in 1994.
Love the Lefts excuse; obama just "bowing" to cultural sensitivity. If it was an appropriate behavior, shouldn't the emperor returned the favor? Of course not - he was probably just as stunned as everybody else.


YouTube - Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor Akihito
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Unread 11-15-2009, 12:02 PM
 
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Hot Air » Blog Archive » Video: 46 handshakes, one bow



Love the Lefts excuse; obama just "bowing" to cultural sensitivity. If it was an appropriate behavior, shouldn't the emperor returned the favor? Of course not - he was probably just as stunned as everybody else.


YouTube - Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor Akihito
I don't see anyone making an excuse. I don't see anyone caring, except you, of course. What's that you posted above? That wouldn't be an excuse, would it? Times change. Protocol changes. It's a bow. No one cares.
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Unread 11-15-2009, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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Huh, were you there?
I didn't think so.
I guess one would have had to be there to see for themselves, so as not to rely on ficticious reporting? We all know how biased left and right reporting can be now, don't we? here's your eek back, you might need it somewhere else?
I sent the photo to snopes and asked them to track it down and comment on it.

Now.....as for the other photo........
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Unread 11-15-2009, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Somewhere East of Laramie
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Love the Lefts excuse; obama just "bowing" to cultural sensitivity. If it was an appropriate behavior, shouldn't the emperor returned the favor? Of course not - he was probably just as stunned as everybody else.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda, probably; sounds like the typically 'strong' NeoConfused position to me
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Unread 11-15-2009, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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What a show off, strutting his big guyness!!! As a short person. I hate it when a tall person bends over to talk to me. I keep waiting for them to pat me on the head, pinch my cheeks and give me my allowance.

But seriously, on my list of Top 10 thing this President does wrong, this would rate about a 999. It just isn't a big deal...unless he pinched their cheeks, too.
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Unread 11-15-2009, 02:02 PM
Status: "Spring, please" (set 28 days ago)
 
Location: On a hill near a river
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I can see the teabagger signs now.

"Obama bowed, and grandma died."

...wait a minute...

"Obama bowed, and grandma...

...and...and...

"Obama bowed, and Maureen Dowd."

That's it!
Well, if he did, Maureen would be wowed.
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Unread 11-15-2009, 03:11 PM
 
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Universal Protocol

The debtor always bows lower than the creditor.
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