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Old 11-18-2009, 01:55 PM
 
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Thanks for the answers.

Are the Libertarians and (probably) the Green Party the only ones against wars?
Wars come with a huge spending, something the Republican Party should be against according to their beliefs (not to mention its not compatible with Christianity).

Why not Ron Paul vs Ralph Nader in 2012 ?
I cannot speak for the Greens. Libertarians are for noninvolvement (I will not use Isolationism). No entangling alliances (NATO), no interventions (Iraq, Vietnam).

But if attacked, they would defend the nation.

Btw- Ron Paul is a Republican who mixes some Libertarian ideas with some cosmic ideas. Bob Barr was the Libertarian Candidate for President last year.
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:57 PM
 
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I cannot speak for the Greens. Libertarians are for noninvolvement (I will not use Isolationism). No entangling alliances (NATO), no interventions (Iraq, Vietnam).

But if attacked, they would defend the nation.

Btw- Ron Paul is a Republican who mixes some Libertarian ideas with some cosmic ideas. Bob Barr was the Libertarian Candidate for President last year.
Bob was a CIA shill.
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:57 PM
 
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I did not ignore it. I now understand that I confused Liberal with Libetarian.
I am sure there are many educated republicans with a high income. You can provide me with a link if you want. There is no need of false accusations.

I hardly see a difference between the politics of the Democrats and Republicans.
Maybe you should take a look at my status to see who I respect.
whether you favor or respect the policies of libertarians, republicans, or democrats is irrelevant to the question you posed, as are the education or income levels of these groups. i made no false accusations - you clearly ignored the crux of the link you were given.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:10 PM
 
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whether you favor or respect the policies of libertarians, republicans, or democrats is irrelevant to the question you posed, as are the education or income levels of these groups. i made no false accusations - you clearly ignored the crux of the link you were given.
I did not ignore it, it showed me that the term liberal as I use in Europe is different from the US. And that there is a difference in todays liberals (USA) and traditional liberals.

The reason I focused on the income level, is because I sometimes have a feeling that some (not all!!!!) right-wingers on CD claim that Democrats (which they call liberals) are lazy people who want the government give them everything for free.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:13 PM
 
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Bob was a CIA shill.
I never cared for Bob Barr and thus did not vote for him. I thought the Libertarians did themselves a disservice having him as their candidate.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:15 PM
 
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I cannot speak for the Greens. Libertarians are for noninvolvement (I will not use Isolationism). No entangling alliances (NATO), no interventions (Iraq, Vietnam).

But if attacked, they would defend the nation.

Btw- Ron Paul is a Republican who mixes some Libertarian ideas with some cosmic ideas. Bob Barr was the Libertarian Candidate for President last year.
What is the Republicans' opinion about him?
He was against the Iraq war and the Patriot Act. I think these two were very crucial for the American society (even the World -> Iraq war).

So after researching I think if I was American I would have to chose between Libertarian and Green Party
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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I never cared for Bob Barr and thus did not vote for him. I thought the Libertarians did themselves a disservice having him as their candidate.
Me FKN too!
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:27 PM
 
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What is the Republicans' opinion about him?
He was against the Iraq war and the Patriot Act. I think these two were very crucial for the American society (even the World -> Iraq war).

So after researching I think if I was American I would have to chose between Libertarian and Green Party
Well, everybody and their cousin was against the Patriot Act. Until they voted for it. And despite the hoopla over it, nobody from Obama down is advocating getting rid of it. More so, if you asked people what exactly offends them about it, you would either get a blank stare or a lot of spastic hyperbole based on conjecture rather than the actual text of the act. What Paul had to say about it, I do not know.

As for Iraq, he was probably right.

What the GOP thinks of him, I do not know, but reckon its mostly benign.

The Libertarians and Greens would not see eye to eye.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:52 PM
 
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Well, everybody and their cousin was against the Patriot Act. Until they voted for it. And despite the hoopla over it, nobody from Obama down is advocating getting rid of it. More so, if you asked people what exactly offends them about it, you would either get a blank stare or a lot of spastic hyperbole based on conjecture rather than the actual text of the act. What Paul had to say about it, I do not know.

As for Iraq, he was probably right.

What the GOP thinks of him, I do not know, but reckon its mostly benign.

The Libertarians and Greens would not see eye to eye.
Hence the .

What Paul had to say about the Patriot Act? That it is the biggest invasion of individuals rights, and that is why he voted against it.
There are several interviews of him in which he said that.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:58 PM
 
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Hence the .

What Paul had to say about the Patriot Act? That it is the biggest invasion of individuals rights, and that is why he voted against it.
There are several interviews of him in which he said that.
He may well have. To be honest, I never heard of him until he ran for President. He is a Congressman (lower house) and there are hundreds of them.

I have not examined his record, but something tells me he toes the (GOP) line most of the time.
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