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Old 12-08-2009, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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You're assuming that other countries only execute for the crime of murder.
No I don't assume that, but even on those countries' more strict laws, the number of executions does not substantially affect the incarceration rate.

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What these bashers of Christianity don't understand is the Muslim religion that they seem to love so much and defend (yet bash Christians) believes in "honor killing", stoning women to death for even appearing to have committed any number of sexual crimes (whether they have or not, and not limited to adultery or fornication). Many, many crimes are punishable by death.
I couldn't give a damn less about any religion qua religion. But most Muslim countries both imprison and execute fewer people than the U.S.
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Old 12-08-2009, 07:08 PM
 
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Check out this map: Incarceration In The United States

Notice the highest rates are in the bible belt.
Maybe because other countries let murderers walk te street as well as sex offenders...not enough money for prisons...due to socialist health care and benefits they have to pay tax for, so to build more prisoners they need even more tax...
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:00 PM
 
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This is actually not the norm in Muslim nations. It's as prevelant as people in the Deep South killing homosexuals....not the norm, but still occurs higher than need be.
Well, it depends on the country. Rare in places like Jordan and Egypt. More common in places like Saudi Arabia, Algeria, and Yemen. Also, it more common in isolated and rural areas as opposed to large cities.
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Well, it depends on the country. Rare in places like Jordan and Egypt. More common in places like Saudi Arabia, Algeria, and Yemen. Also, it more common in isolated and rural areas as opposed to large cities.
The death penalty is not common in Algeria. Saudi Arabia and Yemen are #11 and #13 in per capita executions, out of the 33 countries that administered executions.

Of the top five nations (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_exe_percap-crime-executions-per-capita - broken link) in per capita executions, only one is majority-Muslim. The #1 nation: The Bahamas!
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Old 12-10-2009, 09:22 AM
 
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Well, it depends on the country. Rare in places like Jordan and Egypt. More common in places like Saudi Arabia, Algeria, and Yemen. Also, it more common in isolated and rural areas as opposed to large cities.
Even in Saudi Arabia (where I was born...Riyadh) and Algeria (where my brother grew up...Oran) it's not a common occurrence. Not saying it never happens, but rather it's not the norm. Sadly, it does happen more than it should (even one occurrence is more than should happen).
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Old 12-10-2009, 09:34 AM
 
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That's the greatness of USA,it is the land of the Law...

Everyone is afraid of going to prison,otherwise we would become a rich Brazil or India...

Should be noted that USA is the only country where rich people actually go to jail...even for 22 months ( Milken ) or 6 months ( Stewart).
If everyone is afraid of going to prison then why are there so many in prison?
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Austin
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If everyone is afraid of going to prison then why are there so many in prison?
Prisons are a way for people like Bush to turn minorities into slave labor for big business that is paid for by taxes. Corrupt politicians and big business win.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:29 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Prisons are a way for people like Bush to turn minorities into slave labor for big business that is paid for by taxes. Corrupt politicians and big business win.

hummmm

Minorities have had the record number of criminal thugs in prison long before Bush came along.

In case you did not know this, 70% of all men in prison are minorities. Guess Bush forced them to commit the largest number of crimes even though there are millions more non minorities. Maybe they should just stop committing so many crimes.

And what does a prisoner do to make anyone money? Care to share?
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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And what does a prisoner do to make anyone money? Care to share?
Are you kidding me?

Granted, incarcerating lots of people is economically inefficient from the standpoint of the nation as a whole. But so is war, and we know that some well-placed people still get richer than Croesus off of wars.

Let's connect the dots. Prisoners mean prisons. Prisons mean jobs. Jobs mean lobbyists to hold onto those jobs whether it serves a sensible public crime policy or not.

This is not some whacked-out theory. I've heard, with my own ears, people arguing against liberalization of drug laws for example, for exactly that reason--jobs. And do it without any shame.
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Old 12-11-2009, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Austin
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And what does a prisoner do to make anyone money? Care to share?
The most common activity is making license plates. They also do agricultural work in the south a lot. If prisons were a business they would be inefficient, but since companies don't have to pay for the facilities, the security, or the prisoners wages since taxes cover this they get a very cheap source of domestic labor. Most of these people are non-violent victims of the drug war. Nixon and Reagan were responsible for the American Gulag.
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