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Old 12-07-2009, 10:01 PM
 
Location: California
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I wonder how those stats would look if they let out people involved with pot.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Washington
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War On Drugs Clock

More than 60% of ALL people in prison right now are in because of nonviolent drug offenses.

In several states, nonviolent drug penalties are harsher than certain forms of rape and assault.

So far this year, 49 Billion dollars of tax money has gone to this war on drugs crap.

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Racial Disparity in Sentencing


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The statistics strongly support this information. In a study conducted by the Rand Corporation in 1983, it was estimated that Blacks and Hispanics received longer sentences and spent more time in jail than their white counterparts who were convicted of similar crimes and with similar criminal records. (Silas, 1983 p. 1355). It was also discovered that the courts in California imposed sentences six and a half months longer for Hispanics, and 1 and a half months longer for Blacks when compared to white inmates. The study also came to the conclusion that blacks and Hispanics were more likely to serve a "greater portion" of their sentence in comparison to their white counterparts. (Silas, 1983 p.1355)
It needs to end.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:44 PM
 
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Has anyone considered preventive measures to keep people from committing crimes? Such as legalizing harmless drugs (marijuana), proper education, social services, etc to keep people from becoming criminals and lead a normal life instead.

Also, ban private for-profit jails. For-profit jails are the stupidiest things ever, when you make money by sending people to jail, the owners definitely want more and more people committing small crimes to be locked up and bill tax payers exorbitant fees, it makes no friggin' sense for society. What society need is less people in jail, not more. And less criminals, not more. Diminish the cause for people to commit crimes and go from there.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:54 PM
 
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Has anyone considered preventive measures to keep people from committing crimes? Such as legalizing harmless drugs (marijuana), proper education, social services, etc to keep people from becoming criminals and lead a normal life instead.

Also, ban private for-profit jails. For-profit jails are the stupidiest things ever, when you make money by sending people to jail, the owners definitely want more and more people committing small crimes to be locked up and bill tax payers exorbitant fees, it makes no friggin' sense for society. What society need is less people in jail, not more. And less criminals, not more. Diminish the cause for people to commit crimes and go from there.
Clearly, more jails (that are really worker concentration camps) are the way to go...

Not really, actually...The preventive measures would help A LOT. Unfortunately, with the current prison industrial complex, the rise of far right conservative thought, and the rising wealth gap...any and all preventive measures simply will not be politically feasible.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:56 PM
 
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I wonder how those stats would look if they let out people involved with pot.
Christians do not like pot.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:57 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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It's clear that you two don't even recognize that there are two questions here. 1. What laws to have in place. 2. What do do with people who break them.

Since you recognize only question 2, you make silly comments like "keep them at your house!!!"



The fact that the large majority of our incarcerated are people in jail for trivial drug offenses, that would be a very good start. We could follow that with our stupid immigration laws.

Trivial drug offenses, either you did or you didnt break the law.

Simple, you break the law you go to jail period.

Laws are made for a reason.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:58 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Christians do not like pot.

Atheist love pot because they can talk to their imaginary creator from below.

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Old 12-07-2009, 11:02 PM
 
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Atheist love pot because they can talk to their imaginary creator from below.

Demon weed?

Or, demonized weed?

It was God whut dun it - you know - made pot.

Probably on the 6th day.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:02 PM
 
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Trivial drug offenses, either you did or you didnt break the law.

Simple, you break the law you go to jail period.

Laws are made for a reason.
Sometimes for the wrong reasons. Sometimes laws don't reflect what's best for society (outdated, serve special groups, or simply immoral).

Our marijuana laws are ridiculous. They are outdated, they served to keep hemp out of the marketplace, and quite frankly tons of misinformation is given to jusftify its continued illegal status.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:04 PM
 
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70 percent of all people in prison are in jail for non violent crimes e.g. drugs.
We are paying tax dollars for these people when we should not be. Prisons
have become a profitable business - when are people going to wake up.
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