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The ironic thing is that when Bernie Madorf (sp) scams people for billions of dollars, he's a crook, held in contempt by society and jailed. When Al Gore and the rest of the AGW crowd does the same thing, under the force of government, they're hailed as heros. Some people will believe anything.
That is because you can lie, cheat, steal and commit fraud, as long as you are doing it in the name of the religion of environmentalism; or of you are a socialist or a Marxist.
We have scientists manipulating data, hiding data, deleting data, conspiring to exclude dissenting views from being heard, and core data sets that are either completely useless, fraudulent or destroyed. If none of this rattles your belief that the "science on man made global warming is settled", then maybe sanrene is not far off the mark here.
You don't have any of that, really. The few out-of-context sentences that have been publicized don't show that at all. There may be a couple minor instances of bad practices buried in those 13 years of stolen emails, but nobody's discovered them yet.
Doesn't change the fact that global science is not driven by the few people involved in those email exchanges.
Your sweeping conclusion based on complete nonsense is much more interesting, actually.
I have studied the issue and concluded that this session of global warming is being exacerbated by burning previously sequestered carbon into atmospheric CO2 that is trapping more heat than before.
I have studied the issue and concluded that this session of global warming is being exacerbated by burning previously sequestered carbon into atmospheric CO2 that is trapping more heat than before.
I have not made a dime off this observation.
Hey, are you a scientist? You seem to be using the same empirical evidence to gauge CO2 levels.
You don't have any of that, really. The few out-of-context sentences that have been publicized don't show that at all. There may be a couple minor instances of bad practices buried in those 13 years of stolen emails, but nobody's discovered them yet.
Doesn't change the fact that global science is not driven by the few people involved in those email exchanges.
Your sweeping conclusion based on complete nonsense is much more interesting, actually.
How would you know what's in them? You haven't read them and are just regurgitating the dismissive narrative from the Left.
If you had read them AND the analysis of those data files that is coming out everyday, you would know the truth.
The work and conclusions from the CRU have been widely relied upon throughout the AGW community. They and their falsified data are the basis for everything that comes after.
Exactly how many trillion have they handed out so far?
I'm not suggesting that producers of fossil fuels are not subsidized by governments, they are. ATM those fuels are the life blood of every economy. However, there are many individuals and organizations that only came into existence because they receive free government money in regards to supporting green energy or climate change. Schools, businesses, corporations, research centers, private individuals and the list goes on, are all getting some form of free government subsidy from governments all over the world. All these subsidies offer incentives to millions of people to ignore the truth, and keep the AGW gravy train rolling.
Maybe if you do your own research to see how many people are benefiting from government subsidies related to green energy, and climate change, it may open your eyes.
Start here, and mentally add up all the people involved, and all dollars in grants, government contracts, and government subsidies, and taxpayer dollars going into the projects The organizations, the man power and the infrastructure all revolve around man made global climate change. You can add to this the $10 billion a year in "climate debt" the UN and those at the summit in Copenhagen want to force upon the western nations.
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You just have to beleive in the stock.
