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Old 12-25-2009, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Heh, but the government as a whole doesn't shut down. The President is still 'on duty' today. Most federal employees are off, but the President doesn't deal with most federal employees. The President will be getting briefed about international affairs and national security, making decisions involving them, dealing with the wars and probably in contact with some congressmen and Cabinet members all the same. Presidents work 365 days a year. Even President Bush (I know many of us liberals like to make fun of him always being on vacation, but it's a bit unfair as he was still 'on duty' in a very real sense).
You'd be amazed at the things he DOESN'T have to do--his 'handlers' take care of all of the details. And I'm sure even they like to have a day or two off.
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Old 12-25-2009, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Those who would vote against him because he didn't go to church on Christmas Day would find some other rationalization to not vote for him if he had gone to church on Christmas Day.
There will be a lot of independents next time around. If I'm in a close race, I'd rather have tradition on my side.
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Old 12-25-2009, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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There will be a lot of independents next time around. If I'm in a close race, I'd rather have tradition on my side.
I stand by my statement. Anyone who wouldn't vote for him over this is just looking for an excuse. He wasn't going to get that vote no matter what.
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Old 12-25-2009, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Well then be prepared to lose.
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Old 12-25-2009, 07:55 PM
 
Location: On Top
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There will be a lot of independents next time around. If I'm in a close race, I'd rather have tradition on my side.
Tradition doesn't matter much anymore, look at how many young people voted in this past election compared to previously....there will be millions more young people voting in 2012, they've had enough of the Grand Old Party IMHO.
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Old 12-25-2009, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, IN
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I stand by my statement. Anyone who wouldn't vote for him over this is just looking for an excuse. He wasn't going to get that vote no matter what.
I, too, agree. This particular issue is one that riles up the fundamentalist Christian base of the Republican party, it's one that is only important to those individuals who are pretty much solid Republicans. It's not moderates who are going to be worked up over this particular issue. Something like this will be used to rally the Republican base but it isn't the kind of controversy that is going to sway the uncommitted over to one side or the other.
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Old 12-25-2009, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Well then be prepared to lose.


Please. Most people do not care about something like this.
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Old 12-25-2009, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Well then be prepared to lose.
Are you willing to say that you would not vote for any president who didn't attend church even if you agreed with most his philosophy, policies and what accomplishments while in office and would otherwise vote for him? Are you willing to say that you are a one-issue voter and this is the issue?
If you aren't, why do you think that others wouldn't.
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Old 12-25-2009, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, IN
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Tradition doesn't matter much anymore, look at how many young people voted in this past election compared to previously....there will be millions more young people voting in 2012, they've had enough of the Grand Old Party IMHO.
I'm not completely sure I agree with this, though I'd like to think its true. Traditionally, younger people are much less likely to vote. Now, as we all know many more young people than is typical voted in 2008 and overwhelmingly supported Obama. It remains to be seen if this was a 'fluke' - a one time thing, or if this is the beginning of a revitalized youth vote. My own guess is that fewer young people will vote in 2012 than did in 2008, but that the number of young people voting will still be higher than the historical average. However, this isn't really something we can debate as there is no way to determine it one way or the other, it's all mere conjecture at this point.
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Old 12-25-2009, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Are you willing to say that you would not vote for any president who didn't attend church even if you agreed with most his philosophy, policies and what accomplishments while in office and would otherwise vote for him? Are you willing to say that you are a one-issue voter and this is the issue?
If you aren't, why do you think that others wouldn't.
I'd have voted for Dean after the shriek but apparently a lot of other folks wouldn't. Obama won because of Bush. No Bush to kickaround anymore.
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