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Old 01-03-2010, 07:56 AM
 
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Let me get this right... if its warmer than usual than its global warming... if its colder than usual than it doesn't mean that its not global warming... you global warming freaks are weird... basically "nothing" will disprove global warming... that's your science? sounds more like faith...
Have you actually studied the science on this issue or are you just responding out of emotion? Global warming is not just "things get warmer". It's actually more extreme shifts in regional temperature - hotter highs and colder lows - as part of an overall warming trend.

It's not faith. It's what science has been predicting would happen for decades now. For example, warming temperatures traditionally frozen environments create better conditions for snow. Snow doesn't fall in extreme cold. It falls in moderate cold.

Also, as oceans warm and bring more moisture into the air, it's going to have to fall at some point. In some places, that would mean rain and in others, where the temperature range is adequate, it would fall as snow.

It's really all there in the literature, and has been long before this became a political issue.

EDIT: I should point out that there may be enough checks and balances in the earth's system to prevent catastrophe, and I have no doubt some factions are using global warming to gain money and power - which is wrong imo. But, just the fact that there's more snow somewhere simply means more precipitation is coming out of the air from more evaporation. Great Lakes are in a similar situation, getting more snow due to warmer global temperature.

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Old 01-03-2010, 08:16 AM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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Part of the reason its so cold here may be due to the shutting down of the gulfstream. I'd add the weather here has changed quite significantly over the last 10 years- we no longer get long hot summers, the winters are usualy very mild (i've not seen proper snow since the mid eighties) and when it rains we get torrential rain like we've never had before.
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:21 AM
 
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Part of the reason its so cold here may be due to the shutting down of the gulfstream. I'd add the weather here has changed quite significantly over the last 10 years- we no longer get long hot summers, the winters are usualy very mild (i've not seen proper snow since the mid eighties) and when it rains we get torrential rain like we've never had before.
Who shut down the Gulf Stream?
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:25 AM
 
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Rather than posting these threads with a political agenda everytime it snows, it would be helpful for all you non-scientists to realize that global warming does not mean it simply gets warmer all over. Scientists have known for a long time that it would get unseasonably cold in some areas and snow a great deal more in other areas (due to different temps).

It's more important to look at the shift in plant and animal species, which are occupying ranges never before known - ranges that would suggest things are getting warmer.

It really has nothing to do with weather patterns or Al Gore - two dead give aways that your introduction to this issue came through a political spectrum and not the decades of research that's gone into it.
It has to do with that Repug boogeyman...SCIENCE

So they will NEVER understand......that would take learning....ain't gonna happen with them...
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Old 01-03-2010, 09:03 AM
 
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Britain facing one of the coldest winters in 100 years, experts predict - Telegraph




Paging Al Gore. Paging Al Gore.

Mr. Gore could not be reached for comment.
The earth's climate is very complicated. A minor blip in cooling during the next several years does not minimize the accepted fact that OVERALL we will continue to experience significant warming and that this warming is caused by humanity's activities.
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Old 01-03-2010, 09:07 AM
 
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Have you actually studied the science on this issue or are you just responding out of emotion?
Probably emotion. I can't help but chuckle when I see someone proclaim global warming is all bogus when they have zilcho experience in climatology. Yet, they readily dismiss the opinions of eminently qualified people who have made the study of this stuff their lives.
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Old 01-03-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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Who shut down the Gulf Stream?
lol. It hasn't shut down completely, but is slowing down. You know what I meant.
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Houston
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LMAO!

"There's no global warming because it's a little colder in England this winter."

Way to go! The Conservatives are getting more and more ridiculous by the day.. The U.K. is the size of Michigan. That totally tells us what's happening on this planet.
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:39 AM
 
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Isolated incidents are not the sole barometer for global warming, but rather an overall trend.
Then explain to me why they use "isolated incidents" as evidence of the entire trend within the research of AGW?
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Old 01-03-2010, 02:47 PM
 
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Then explain to me why they use "isolated incidents" as evidence of the entire trend within the research of AGW?
Because the warming that we have been experiencing over the past 50 years is a significant abnormality when compared to the past million years or so. Something is quite clearly wrong.
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