Obama assistance in Haiti worse than Bushs in LA (Alabama, 9/11, how much)
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I posted in response to your statement: "ever hear of a helicopter? Hait is only 600 miles from Miami"
Get a clue! Or do you purposely choose to act blissfully ignorant of your own statement?
Oh wait, I don't believe you're acting..................................
Dont like the fact that I responded to your posting?
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Originally Posted by burdell
Really? Please do supply a list of which helicopters can fly 600 miles non-stop while carrying enough payload to make that journey worthwhile.
We are discussing dropping supplies, so only a fool would limit their options to helicopters when planes are built for this specific purpose..
I do find it odd that churches and non profits have managed to land in Haiti to offer help, but we are still making excuses for taking a week to organize a few thousand troops who are available at the presidents command..
What's funny is that we've got some people criticizing Obama for pledging "too much" to Haiti, and then those same people turn around and yell, "He's not doing enough!"
I didnt once criticize him for the amount of spending on Haiti.. Are you now claiming that everyone speaks for me? I would disagree with this but then you are now claiming I dont have a voice..
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Originally Posted by pghquest
Dont like the fact that I responded to your posting?
I don't like the fact you choose to act? ignorant of the FACT it was YOU who brought up helicopters as if they were somehow a magic bullet at Obama's disposal.
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Originally Posted by pghquest
We are discussing dropping supplies, so only a fool would limit their options to helicopters when planes are built for this specific purpose..
No, we're discussing the fool who brought up helicopters as if they were a viable option for a 1200 mile round trip carrying a useful cargo load. When that fool was asked for a list of the helicopters capable of that task he chose to act? blissfully ignorant of his original statement.
I don't like the fact you choose to act? ignorant of the FACT it was YOU who brought up helicopters as if they were somehow a magic bullet at Obama's disposal.
Um, military machines are indeed at Obamas disposal. Lookup the term "Commander in Chief"..
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Originally Posted by burdell
No, we're discussing the fool who brought up helicopters as if they were a viable option for a 1200 mile round trip carrying a useful cargo load. When that fool was asked for a list of the helicopters capable of that task he chose to act? blissfully ignorant of his original statement.
helicopters dont need to travel from Miami, Cargo ships would.. Helicopters can fly from navy ships, Cuba, Jamaica, Bahamas, Turks and Caicos Islands.
You want to discuss only helicopters fine.. Indeed they can travel the distance from these other areas.. If you want to discuss cargo, then one needs to discuss flights from Miami, and the NUMEROUS different planes that are built for this specific purpose. I know yo have to be smart enough to know this but just think you are making browning points because I listed "helicopters".. Woo hoo.. +1 point burdell for knowing the difference, -500 points for not knowing other options exist..
How many days ahead of time was Katrina forecast and thus time for preparation available?
How many days ahead of time was the earthquake forecast and thus time for preparation available?
Or would that just be too much like making your ludicrous premise just a little more rational?
You're wasting your time - he'll never answer this one - your points are logical and deflate his argument.
He's not interested in a logical debate or the truth for that matter - just in spinning things into the stratosphere with the sole purpose of winning a meaningless debate and bashing Obama.
How many days ahead of time was Katrina forecast and thus time for preparation available?
How many days ahead of time was the earthquake forecast and thus time for preparation available?
Or would that just be too much like making your ludicrous premise just a little more rational?
It only took EIGHTY FOUR postings before some liberal actually found a possible defense for the period of time its taken Obama to get people on the ground.
Ooh wait, that was almost a valid defense until one understands that organizations like the American Red Cross was able to organize aid within 2 days, and we have a president who takes 5-6...
It only took EIGHTY FOUR postings before some liberal actually found a possible defense for the period of time its taken Obama to get people on the ground.
Ooh wait, that was almost a valid defense until one understands that organizations like the American Red Cross was able to organize aid within 2 days, and we have a president who takes 5-6...
This point was made many posts ago - you simply ignored it.
5 days after Haiti was hit by an earthquake.. US has several hundred soldiers on land to assist.
Hurricane Katrina hits LA on August 29th, and 5 days later there were 54,000 military personnel in the area helping.
Obama pledges $100,000,000 to Haiti while Bush sends $10,500,000,000 to LA
Where is all the liberal outrage for the lack of support? Does Obama care less than Bush did for "black people" Yeah, obserd, but that didnt stop you liberals from making similar statements towards Bush.. WHY?
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Originally Posted by Katiana
Is Haiti a part of the US? Are we responsible for its defense? Did they ask us to help militarily?
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Originally Posted by HubbleRules
One teeny tiny difference you seem to conveniently overlook...
Last time I looked, Louisiana was part of The United States...
Haiti is a foreign nation...
Anyone who thinks we can (or even should) mobilize to provide aid to a foreign nation as fast or with the same level of spending as for domestic disasters is really foolish...
Just sounds like brain-dead unconditional Obama-bashing to me...
The rescue in Louisiana was an embarrassment. Our own country wracked by a natural disaster and the executive government (Bush, Cheney, Rice., etc) were not even in Washington. I believe Bush was in California, Cheney was out west and may have been in Wyoming, and Rice was rumored to be shoe shopping in NYC.
I know Bush was celebrating with McCain (his 69th birthday) in Arizona on August 29th, 2005
To date, in parts of the 9th Ward of New Orleans:
There are homes that have not been touched since Katrina and Feral chickens are common place.
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