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Old 02-26-2010, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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1) The majority doesn't get to decide the rights of the minority. If they did we might not have civil rights legislation to this day. Religion and government (public school) is constitutionally separate... Live and let live violates my rights as a Jew, the rights of Atheists and the numerous others who would prefer to not be subjected to Christian prayer. It is also how the supreme court sees it.

2) I think you're right about larger cities, although I only had to go to a game five miles from the Austin border to see this in action.

3) Rodeos aren't government agencies. They're privately owned. i don't care if they dress as Jesus and do a pageant while forcing everyone to read in unison from a King James Bible. It's not the government.
I do understand what you are saying about being Jewish. I came from NYC and then south Florida and now I'm in Texas.

NYC is pretty secular. South Florida mostly Jewish (lived there in 80's) and now here in Texas I understand what the phrase "Bible Belt" means.

Some people assimilate and others don't. I do hope you find less offense where you are now then what you found in Texas.
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Old 02-26-2010, 02:54 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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I do understand what you are saying about being Jewish. I came from NYC and then south Florida and now I'm in Texas.

NYC is pretty secular. South Florida mostly Jewish (lived there in 80's) and now here in Texas I understand what the phrase "Bible Belt" means.

Some people assimilate and others don't. I do hope you find less offense where you are now then what you found in Texas.
I sure do agree.

I am much happier back in the Northeast. It's a shame... There were many things I liked about Texas. I just found the Christian evanglisim to be too much. So I voted with my feet and left...

(Now I'm sure someone will say that's a silly reason to leave-- Someone who's in the majority and has no way of understanding what it's like to be on the other side).

I think I realized I was living in an area that had total Christian hegemony when people tried to argue that crosses were secular symbols.
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Old 02-26-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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Yes. But I also support the lesson in english only.
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Old 02-26-2010, 03:20 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Yes. But I also support the lesson in english only.
Yes. I agree. All of these illegals coming here and speaking Hebrew in our schools. Awful.
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Old 02-26-2010, 03:24 PM
 
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Fortunately, religion has no place in public education.Keep it where it belongs.
Interesting .........historically religion did have a place in our education, but those of your ilk cant tolerate that, but surely feel homosexuality has a place in our public education. Wonder if there is a connection..............
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Old 02-26-2010, 03:24 PM
 
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I do not support organized prayer in school, and neither does Jesus. “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others." Matthew 6:5
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Old 02-26-2010, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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It would be a great idea to read the Holy Qu'ran and quote the teachings of the Prophet Issu (aka Jesus) yes Jesus is quoted in the Qu'ran along with the 10 laws of Musa (Moses) and Ibrahim (Abraham).
Well unless you speak arabic, that ain't happening. I don't know of too many people in the US that can read/write/speak arabic, do you?
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Old 02-26-2010, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Over There
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I am from a time where there were Bible readings in school. There were no Koran readings, but reading from the King James Version of the Bible exclusively. When the people advocate bringing prayer to public schools, they mean Christian prayer, not Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, etc., they mean Christian.

I have an issue of religion in a public school. People seem to forget that they can teach their children religion, they can have a morning prayer before the child goes to school, and the parents go to work. They can have daily Bible readings at the beginning and/or end of the day. They can go to church freely not only on Sunday, but any day of the week. religion is not restricted in the US, we can worship freely.

When Bible reading ended, my faith didn't. Is our faith so fragile that we need prayer in public schools to sustain it?

BTW, I am and have been as long as I can remember, a Christian.

I agree. Prayer is for the home not for school.
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Old 02-26-2010, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I'm wondering if, for people who support organized school prayer, if they would still support it if the daily prayers were done in Hebrew and were from the Jewish faith? Or do they only support school prayer if the prayers are Christian based?
Why not. Jesus was also Jewish.
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Old 02-27-2010, 01:59 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Well since prayer has been out of schools since the mid-1960's I am not sure where you went to school.
Great Britain, perhaps, where they still have prayer in school. And their state schools are just as troubled as American public schools.

Funny, their schools have prayer and most of the population (other than Muslim immigrants and wackjobs in Northern Ireland) doesn't care much about religion. Our schools have the Pledge of Allegiance and most of our population doesn't care much about politics. Perhaps prayer in schools would wind up creating an extremely secularized America.
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