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You are aware that the dems/obama have structured the bill to take in taxes for 10 years, but only offer services for 6, aren't you?
In all honesty, do you not see the dishonest gimmicks in that scheme?
Do you think the real cost, real deficit savings would change if those gimmicks were taken out?
Even at that, the CBO came out today with their revised calculations of the senate bill - less savings in the deficit, more costs.
Do you really not see how completely dishonest the dems have been in structuring this bill, or is it that you do indeed know and just don't care?
Ooo... ooo... I know! Obama and the Dems can collect the additional taxes, penalties, and charges every year, but then provide health care only 6 years out of every 10. Every decade we'll have a 4 year moratorium on health care to make the CBO's projections work.
Yeah... that's it!
Ooo... ooo... I know! Obama and the Dems can collect the additional taxes, penalties, and charges every year, but then provide health care only 6 years out of every 10. Every decade we'll have a 4 year moratorium on health care to make the CBO's projections work.
Yeah... that's it!
Can you imagine if an insurance company did that? Started collecting your premiums, but didn't provide the services until 4 years later.
This is not a football game of Dems vs Repubs. This is your nation. Perhaps legislation of such importance should be decided by the people- what a concept. Currently the people do not want this bill. In the fall and in 2012, the will not want the democrats by virture of thier actions today.
Thank you very well stated, and true, the democrats have done themselves in by their own actions, you are correct.
The epitome of the liberal mentality. We know what is best for you - so just you sit down and take it America..
The president we elected ran as a moderate but has governed as a radical. The country does not agree with his liberal ideology on the majority of the important issues of today; taxes, spending, deficits and the role the federal government plays in our lives.
The future that obama and the liberals have planned out is NOT what the American people voted for - and you are seeing the truth to that every day.
They oppose his policies on virtually every issue.
What is this we stuff. You voted for palin. Yes palin not McCain probably hoped the old dude would die and she would rule. He is doing exactly what he said on the bailouts and HC. The only thing he is not doing is the public option that makes the right so rabid. He even offered the fools tort reform and still no compromise. The republicans think they will just walk in and take over in November well let me ask you this if Im at a town hall and ask this new repub Washington when HC will be reformed under them what will they say. Eventually voters will ask what do you plan to do and a blank stare and saying Obamas a socialist might not do it for a lot of voters. Pure hate may work now but it will eventually lose it appeal
This bill is an illustration of the control of our politics by the connected corporate thieves. I oppose this bill because it does not eliminate the private for profit sector in providing heal care for our population. We do not need private insurance, hospitals, pharma or any other form of greed driven business requiring us to pay excessive salaries, bonuses and dividends.
The government could provide all of this at far less cost.
Kev-
This is not a football game of Dems vs Repubs. This is your nation. Perhaps legislation of such importance should be decided by the people- what a concept.
The president we elected ran as a moderate but has governed as a radical.
WRONG. He has governed as a centrist and a determined proponent of bipartisanship, his devotion to the latter having been matched by absolutely no one to his right. His agenda has been radical to the same extent that common sense is radical.
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They oppose his policies on virtually every issue.
WRONG. Simply break the health care bill for example into its major components and pieces. Assistance to low-income indivduals to obtain health care coverage? Major support. Tax credits for small businesses who provide options for health care coverage and penalties for those who could but don't? Major support. Health care exchanges? Major support. Elimination of pre-existing conditions and coverage caps? Major support. Getting rid of the doughnut hole? Major support. Taxes on the wealthy and high-end plans of the wealthy? Major support. Long-term budget deficit reductions? Major support. Point after point, when they are put to the question on an individual basis, the provisions of the health care bills earn widespread popular support. Which is why the actual provisions of the bills are not what Republicans want to talk about.
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