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Old 05-14-2010, 12:08 PM
 
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Although I do tend to think they were doing something illegal and the money was probably obtained that way, if they were not arrested for a crime the money should be given back.
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Old 05-14-2010, 12:12 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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The sad part is that these people didn't know the law. (Understandable as they are foreign and most Americans don't know them either.) Their is no provision that a traffic stop warrants a search by authorities without "reasonable articulable suspicion" that a "crime is afoot" in PA without the "consent" to the search.

Any judge with any sense of justice will return these people's money without any delay. However, the goons of government rarely, if ever, let justice or "law" stand in the way of their fellow gang members.
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Old 05-14-2010, 12:38 PM
 
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Total BS. If they were caught with a kilo of coke in the trunk then yea. But the burden of proof lays on the police to prove the money was obtained through illegal means. Since when does carrying around money a crime in this country?

I read a story like this twenty some years ago where a woman was pulled over and they took her life savings 40k, and she never got it back. She was moving to another state and unfortunately happened to get pulled over that day. She didn't trust banks and had the money on her. Outrageous.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:29 PM
 
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YIP it is the war on drugs gone bad. Cash is tainted. The constitution says no bills of tainting. This is supposed to protect your right to inherit land but we have switched to a more liquid asset based economy and so cash should be protected as inheritable.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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Although I do tend to think they were doing something illegal and the money was probably obtained that way, if they were not arrested for a crime the money should be given back.
Why do we not give it back? Cause Police aren't idiots and you should not make them behave like idiots either.. it is well known and documented that drug traffickers transmit their money through the roads to be laundered... It is already known that 90%+ of the time, people who have large sums of cash in the car is related to a drug enterprise for laundering and that is the reason for confiscation... cause we aren't idiots... The money is always there to be reclaimed as long as you have proof of its origins... if its your retirement money, show them where you withdrawn it... if its from your bank, show your bank statements... most of the money is not asked back because it is drug money where there is no paper trail... we live in age where people don't have to pretend to be stupid... more than likely these trio are drug traffickers that got the drug money confiscated... they can get it back as long as show proof that it is not drug money... easy enough to do cause there is always a paper trail if its legit which I bet it isn't...
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:46 PM
 
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Why do we not give it back? Cause Police aren't idiots and you should not make them behave like idiots either.. it is well known and documented that drug traffickers transmit their money through the roads to be laundered... It is already known that 90%+ of the time, people who have large sums of cash in the car is related to a drug enterprise for laundering and that is the reason for confiscation... cause we aren't idiots... The money is always there to be reclaimed as long as you have proof of its origins... if its your retirement money, show them where you withdrawn it... if its from your bank, show your bank statements... most of the money is not asked back because it is drug money where there is no paper trail... we live in age where people don't have to pretend to be stupid... more than likely these trio are drug traffickers that got the drug money confiscated... they can get it back as long as show proof that it is not drug money... easy enough to do cause there is always a paper trail if its legit which I bet it isn't...
This is supposed to be America buddy. Innocent until proven guilty.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:46 PM
 
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*shakes head* In Amerika you are guilty until proven innocent. Even if the "evidence" is found illegally under the "color of law" by government thugs.

4th Amendment...R.I.P.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:50 PM
 
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The sad part is that these people didn't know the law. (Understandable as they are foreign and most Americans don't know them either.) Their is no provision that a traffic stop warrants a search by authorities without "reasonable articulable suspicion" that a "crime is afoot" in PA without the "consent" to the search.

Any judge with any sense of justice will return these people's money without any delay. However, the goons of government rarely, if ever, let justice or "law" stand in the way of their fellow gang members.
Sounds like an arty-culpable arrest.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:54 PM
 
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Sounds like an arty-culpable arrest.
Not a legal expert. What is "arty-culpable"?
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Old 05-14-2010, 02:04 PM
 
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Not a legal expert. What is "arty-culpable"?

Well, it ain't exculpatory, and it ain't inculpatory - arty-culpatory evidence is that which springs from the imagination (sic) of an officer on the collective take.
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