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Old 01-28-2013, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Why would you move here without a job?
Young people are doing it nationwide. I have several friends who moved to Portland, all without jobs. A few of them found meaningful employment, a few ended up underemployed, and a couple ended up broke.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Young people are doing it nationwide. I have several friends who moved to Portland, all without jobs. A few of them found meaningful employment, a few ended up underemployed, and a couple ended up broke.
It's just a crap shoot. If someone is willing to take a chance of just jumping in without a job and understands the consequences that's fine. I have seen more than a few couples and families break up and a lot of heartache ensue due to the inability to find work in Portland. It can cause a real strain on relationships.

It isn't easy on an individual either but a single person does have less to lose.

Planning ahead, checking out a place for yourself and not going by what others who have never relocated to the place to which you are considering your move, is the smart way to do it.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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Why would you move here without a job?


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Young people are doing it nationwide. I have several friends who moved to Portland, all without jobs. A few of them found meaningful employment, a few ended up underemployed, and a couple ended up broke.

And everyone of them thought they were the exception to the rule. Just because everyone is doing it does not mean they should be, and the reality is everyone is not doing it, and few succeed.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Just outside of Portland
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Things are different when you are young, healthy, adventurous, have a head full of dreams and are willing to take some risk.

Fast forward to your forties and all of a sudden being careful, conservative and maintaining the status qou is the norm.
Like a turtle.


Kind of boring to someone in their twenties who has their life ahead of them...
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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I am 65 and on any given day, I and those my age I associate with, do more than any of the youngsters around us.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Actually, I think a person who is a bit oder as in maybe in their 30's may have a better chance than one in their 20's if they have more experience and education. Today's 20 year olds who have none of these things are often competing with older more stable people who do for these same jobs in today's tough job market. I saw this all the time when I was a part of a team hiring for entry level jobs at Standard.

I don't know if that is true of sales or food service work but I often do see people in their thirties in those jobs just as often as those in their twenties.

Back in the day, employers were willing to train young people in just about any type of work. That's how I learned when I was just twenty. That was both in office work and in the lab tech field. Today, that isn't the case. More and more you need to bring some kind of schooling to the table. That's usually going to college or to one of those trade schools advertised on TV. Or at least they prefer people who have experience in the fields in which they are seeking jobs. So someone just a bit older will have all that.

It's a different world today than it was when those of us who are much older entered the job market. We can't tell younger people what to do or give advice based on the way things were when we were in our twenties and expect them to find the same conditions.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Just outside of Portland
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I am 65 and on any given day, I and those my age I associate with, do more than any of the youngsters around us.
So did you undertake any ventures that had successful results 45 years ago that would seem wild, crazy and irresponsible for you to attempt now?

I know I did.
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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Not really. Like most twenty year olds I thought I knew it all. Now that I do, I laugh at how much twenty somethings really don't know.
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Portland Metro
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Ah, but most twenty somethings undertake those wild, crazy and irresponsible ventures BECAUSE they think they know everything. I know I did. Mostly succeeded, but had some spectacular failures.

I'm also not afraid to admit that I still fail, 20 years later. Maybe in 20 more years I'll be perfect, like other 65-year-olds.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Ah, but most twenty somethings undertake those wild, crazy and irresponsible ventures BECAUSE they think they know everything. I know I did. Mostly succeeded, but had some spectacular failures.

I'm also not afraid to admit that I still fail, 20 years later. Maybe in 20 more years I'll be perfect, like other 65-year-olds.
I don't know any perfect 65 year olds, just those who know enough to admit they aren't. But I do know some pretty adventuresome ones who have started new careers after retiring from their first jobs. They are just a bit more cautious than they were at the age of twenty.

Anyway, before this thread gets moved to the retirement forum, I hope the advice the OP has been given has helped and s/he finds a job soon.
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