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Old 03-26-2009, 12:20 PM
 
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That's just bonechilling and horrible. I hope the witless insensitive animal never works --in law enforcement or any othe profession--again. I hope Karma comes around and kicks his own butt, the racist bastard.

 
Old 03-26-2009, 12:28 PM
 
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I guess it depends how they were behaving when the cop stopped them. If Moats jumped out of his car screaming and yelling, I can believe the cop might pull his gun. If they were arrogant, cussing, behaving badly, you can't blame the cop.
After watching the video the cop needs to be fired. The cop knew where the hospital is and was chasing a car with flashing lights heading straight for the hospital. He also knew that it was an emergency he was following because of the car's flashing lights. What he didn't like was the vehicle did not pull over right away and instead headed straight to the emergency entrance to the hospital. With this police officer it's all about power over people. Dump the punk, this type has given cops a bad name for years and thank god for dash cameras.
 
Old 03-26-2009, 12:33 PM
 
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That's just bonechilling and horrible. I hope the witless insensitive animal never works --in law enforcement or any othe profession--again. I hope Karma comes around and kicks his own butt, the racist bastard.
You know it could be racism but I've seen this same power play from cops dealing with white folk too.
 
Old 03-26-2009, 12:46 PM
 
Location: southern california
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the issue is not dying relatives the issues is outstanding tickets and speeding.
under the new definition there is no such thing a appropriate law enforcement.
 
Old 03-26-2009, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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After watching the video the cop needs to be fired. The cop knew where the hospital is and was chasing a car with flashing lights heading straight for the hospital. He also knew that it was an emergency he was following because of the car's flashing lights. What he didn't like was the vehicle did not pull over right away and instead headed straight to the emergency entrance to the hospital. With this police officer it's all about power over people. Dump the punk, this type has given cops a bad name for years and thank god for dash cameras.
Flashing lights does not give somebody (famous or not) the permission to run red lights, run stop signs, evade police (since he did not stop), AND disobey the officer.

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the issue is not dying relatives the issues is outstanding tickets and speeding.
under the new definition there is no such thing a appropriate law enforcement.
No matter what a cop does, that cop is in the wrong. It shouldn't matter that this guy plowed right through a red light and a few stop signs. It shouldn't matter that his driving pattern matched that of a criminal attempting to evade police. What matters is that Powell is a cop, and therefore should be fired.

/sarcasm

Both Moats and the officer did things that were "in the wrong". End of story.

Here's a brilliant idea! If you see flashing lights following you... try pulling over.

(and no, I don't like most cops.)
 
Old 03-26-2009, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Thanks for the vid.

Excuse me - Moats and wife totally ignored the cop/lights/stop sign(s).

His attitude/behavior was poor. He was argumentative, combative and aggressive.
Moats and the other passengers had a DYING family member just a few yards away, what kind of behavior could be expected with that?!

Personally, if i was Moats, i would have told the cop where to put his ticket and ran into that dying family member's room anyway.
 
Old 03-26-2009, 01:34 PM
 
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Flashing lights does not give somebody (famous or not) the permission to run red lights, run stop signs, evade police (since he did not stop), AND disobey the officer.



No matter what a cop does, that cop is in the wrong. It shouldn't matter that this guy plowed right through a red light and a few stop signs. It shouldn't matter that his driving pattern matched that of a criminal attempting to evade police. What matters is that Powell is a cop, and therefore should be fired.

/sarcasm

Both Moats and the officer did things that were "in the wrong". End of story.

Here's a brilliant idea! If you see flashing lights following you... try pulling over.

(and no, I don't like most cops.)
Get off your high horse! This police officer is a public servant not the local tyrant. He should be trained properly and use his common sense for crying out loud in dealing with the public. Situations like this can escalate way beyond the running of lights. You can best believe if it was his mother who was dying in that hospital his ass would be doing the exact same thing in his family car and so would you.
 
Old 03-26-2009, 01:34 PM
 
Location: southern california
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many feel that race and social status puts them above the law.
what is strange is i should be posting this about white people.
signed
a non white
 
Old 03-26-2009, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Philly
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Some of these cops were bullied or nobodies in high school. With a badge and a little 'power', they feel like this is their way to get back at those who gave them a hard time. I think this cop was one of them.
 
Old 03-26-2009, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Get off your high horse! This police officer is a public servant not the local tyrant. He should be trained properly and use his common sense for crying out loud in dealing with the public. Situations like this can escalate way beyond the running of lights. You can best believe if it was his mother who was dying in that hospital his ass would be doing the exact same thing in his family car and so would you.
Again, we go back to: No matter what a cop does, he/she is in the wrong.

A police officer is a public servant whose duty it is to protect the public. Moats' actions *running a red light, running stop signs, possibly speeding* made him a danger to himself and everyone around him. The officer went after him. He refused to stop. Moats escalated the situation by not stopping. Standard protocol. Refusing to stop is actually a crime known as evasion.

I will have to agree that emotions do run high in situations like this. But in order to properly judge a situation, you really have to set your emotions aside and look at pure facts. The officer did not know whether or not Moats' mother-in-law was dying as he was racing after the vehicle. The officer did not know whether or not Moats was armed as Moats stepped out of his vehicle.

As from my last post, my machine was reset against my will, so I could not continue my post. (Thank you, NMCI for the forced reboot!) Here is the rest of my post as I intended:

From the point that the officer stepped out of the vehicle, things could have indeed been handled differently. However, the point is that both Moats (family included) and Officer Powell were both out of line in their actions. Moats was rude and disrespectful towards the officer who was merely doing his duty as an officer of the law. Powell's actions were that of an officer who felt that his "power" was being disrespected. Powell said some nasty things that should not have been said - as he did indeed go on a power trip.

Perhaps none of this would have happened if a police escort was requested while en route to the hospital? I've done that once and it worked quite nicely. Officer met up with us and passed us. Then he got ahead of us and hit the lights. We followed him through several red lights to the hospital, where dispatch had informed the hospital, so they were completely ready. ((One of the scariest nights of my entire life!))
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