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Old 07-11-2012, 12:46 PM
 
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Well first off your precious daughter needs to realize it is TV (for entertainment) and not reality. If she does not realize this then you need to sit her down.
are u seroius ? kids grow up believe the muppet are real........ santa claus, ...all these nice things cause its the best part of being young your imagination........

but these show are mooding our children to be real a--holes and sitting down and talking to them wont help "their reality"...........

its real tv and not entainment ...........

and if u think you can stop a teen from watching these show ..... you in for a fight your going to lose.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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Those awful shows are not ruining society...they are biproducts of an already ruined, mostly shallow and vapid society, i.e. today's society.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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Those awful shows are not ruining society...they are biproducts of an already ruined, mostly shallow and vapid society, i.e. today's society.
that's a good point.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:01 PM
 
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are u seroius ? kids grow up believe the muppet are real........ santa claus, ...all these nice things cause its the best part of being young your imagination........

but these show are mooding our children to be real a--holes and sitting down and talking to them wont help "their reality"...........

its real tv and not entainment ...........

and if u think you can stop a teen from watching these show ..... you in for a fight your going to lose.
The kids that are watching the Muppet show should not be watching Jersey Shore.
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Old 07-11-2012, 04:18 PM
 
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are shows like jersey shore, bad girl club, bridezilla, etc ruining this society ?

is teaching young girls and women that its ok to be a hookers, strippers, pole dancers,ok?

that 's its ok to be like Kim kardarisan, Rihanna, etc - (no intergrity, sleep with hundreds of men)

are we teaching them that its o.k to have little self worth, low self esteem, and major selfishness issue.....

are we doom ? if this continues and would u want this for your daughter?

No. I despise these shows but they are not ruining our society.

They are a reflection of our society and of what our society wants to watch. What most people find interesting, entertaining and what sells.

Television producers are not in the business of producing high art , unless it sells.

If it sold that's what we would be seeing! But it doesn't. So this is what we are seeing.

"Give the people what they want" - Ray Davies
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:55 AM
 
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No I think they as much REFLECT society.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:58 AM
 
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these shows are guilty pleasures, the one I watch out of the bunch you mentioned is 'bridezillas.' IMO, these shows continue to 'lessen' the value of women to men. I am from NJ and most people from here hate that show. Not saying America thought NJ was some virginal haven, but since the show came out, I notice more and more people seem to think it's okay/acceptable to downgrade NJ women as a whole as drunk sl*ts or whatever snookie is doing. I swear it's directly related to that show becoming popular. The reality is there are "Snookies" in every city of the country. Men encourage and even want women to behave this way and then wag their fingers about them the day after they spend the night.

Nobody watches UFC or American Choppers and applies those violent type lifestyles depicted on the shows to the men IRL, but they are always at the ready to compare a girl who is out with her gf's at the club to "strippers, hookers, Kardashians," etc. Male based reality shows are portrayed mostly in a positive light "Pawn Stars," "The Deadliest Catch," etc. but the women based reality shows focus on women's sexuality and how "uneducated/clueless" they are. Everyone know men control the TV networks and this is just a reflection of how they see themselves as poised, brave and self respecting and the women in this country/world as harlots and gold diggers.
Pornography in particular feeds into this. You constantly see ads that speak of women as 'sluts' or 'biatches', who want to be banged, and those lame ads for 'growing you dick' as if anyone is stupid enough to fall for it.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:59 AM
 
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No. I despise these shows but they are not ruining our society.

They are a reflection of our society and of what our society wants to watch. What most people find interesting, entertaining and what sells.

Television producers are not in the business of producing high art , unless it sells.

If it sold that's what we would be seeing! But it doesn't. So this is what we are seeing.

"Give the people what they want" - Ray Davies
I think it's catering to the lowest common denominator. Having someone worse than us we can point our finger to and say 'at least I'm not _____.'
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:29 AM
 
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you mean to tell the the penile enlargement is not real.............o dam??? i was going to add another foot.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:51 AM
 
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No. I despise these shows but they are not ruining our society.

They are a reflection of our society and of what our society wants to watch. What most people find interesting, entertaining and what sells.

Television producers are not in the business of producing high art , unless it sells.

If it sold that's what we would be seeing! But it doesn't. So this is what we are seeing.

"Give the people what they want" - Ray Davies
Wrong. Anything that is constantly thrusted to the Populace as permissiveness, carries the distinct risk of a subculture occuring from that ; combine TV reality shows that are immoral with the existing barrage of other forms of mass media...and youve a movement that HAS developed ...unless you think that a hyper-sexualized society isnt harmful considering the national STD epidemic where many hundreds of thousands have died prematurely from HIV/AIDS and HPV in women and with 65,000,000 adult americans having at least one STD (oftentimes for the rest of their life) .

Yes, such TV shows ARE a reflection of society because they gained popularity from the mass media which includes simular TV shows of ill repute .

'Give the people what they want' ???! No ..... a permissive society always ends in gross immorality and widespread anarchy because it doesnt care about right from wrong any longer ; only what each Hedonist can muster up for himself/herself .The correct approach should be : Be intolerant to promoted immorality and the harmful effects thereof.
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