U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Covid-19 Information Page
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Psychology
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-20-2013, 06:46 AM
 
72 posts, read 188,079 times
Reputation: 96

Advertisements

This was the first time I saw this graph, and I find it shocking. It's almost tripled since the early 1900s.







What do you think are the causes for the men's suicide rate to increase by that much and reach so high?
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-20-2013, 07:15 AM
 
12,161 posts, read 11,863,307 times
Reputation: 10189
Interesting that this spiked after 1950. When men realized that women weren't going to have their babies, look pretty in the typing pool and mix their drinks for them, they realized life is not worth living? I know as a man born in the late 20th century, I personally feel cheated.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2013, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
7,732 posts, read 12,208,065 times
Reputation: 7759
A number of societal reasons- all unencouraging. Lack of connectedness to others, i.e. inability to discuss feelings face to face. Social connection amongst young people today is primarily electronic- social skills are dwindling.

Role models for boys are increasingly violent video games and the military. Divorce rate is high- fewer men in the family. They are unsure of who they are and who they should strive to be. General emotional immaturity is rife as compared to earlier generations.

Let's not forget the bad economy and perceived lack of a viable future.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-21-2013, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
29,022 posts, read 27,997,873 times
Reputation: 36578
I wonder what caused the spike in the early 1900s.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-21-2013, 08:51 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
24,682 posts, read 48,909,946 times
Reputation: 11862
I'm surprised rates were fairly low during the Great Depression with not much of a peak. Also interesting would be an explanation for why the rate for females has gone down. Perhaps it's because life in general has improved for women. Remember this is for age 15-24, so very young males is more accurate. I'm not a sociologist or a psychologist, but there are probably a number of factors/reasons for the increase. I do wonder if a lack of purpose in life (which might also explain higher female rates in the past) might be one of them.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-21-2013, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
7,732 posts, read 12,208,065 times
Reputation: 7759
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerania View Post
I wonder what caused the spike in the early 1900s.

The spike shown around WWI was likely from shell shock from returning soldiers- not sure about spike just prior- perhaps there was a depression or recession then?
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-21-2013, 10:05 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
24,682 posts, read 48,909,946 times
Reputation: 11862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollytree View Post
The spike shown around WWI was likely from shell shock from returning soldiers- not sure about spike just prior- perhaps there was a depression or recession then?
The spike was in the late 00s and early 10s, before WWI. By the time 1918 comes around there's a sharp decline, actually.

I actually think wars would've reduced suicides as people realised how lucky they were to be alive. You can see the second steep decline coincides precisely with the early 1940s, World War II.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-21-2013, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Whittier
3,007 posts, read 5,486,953 times
Reputation: 3067
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollytree View Post
A number of societal reasons- all unencouraging. Lack of connectedness to others, i.e. inability to discuss feelings face to face. Social connection amongst young people today is primarily electronic- social skills are dwindling.

Role models for boys are increasingly violent video games and the military. Divorce rate is high- fewer men in the family. They are unsure of who they are and who they should strive to be. General emotional immaturity is rife as compared to earlier generations.

Let's not forget the bad economy and perceived lack of a viable future.

Those violent video games of the 1960's really caused that spike. Ironically the rate seems to have declined since those types of video games came out.

Since the 1960's there was the War in Vietnam, an influx and acceptance to try drugs, free love, Civil Rights and of course Women's Rights. The 1970's conflated this with "stagflation" with unemployment rising until the 80's.

But in the end I agree, men, specifically young men, couldn't seem to cope with these "new" pressures. Coming back from the Vietnam war as a traitor, not a hero, with a wife who wanted to work; who was never home to help with the kids, led men to drink, while looking through employment ads.



This graph (of death by Cirrhosis) seems to match up pretty well to the OP's.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-21-2013, 11:30 AM
 
3,806 posts, read 8,364,205 times
Reputation: 4948
Women seem to track with men until the 1970s. Women's Lib, baby! The emasculation of the male, specifically the formerly-Alpha white male. As my dad calls it, the "intrusion" of women into the workforce. Add to that the fact that this year, suicides outrank combat deaths of soldiers involved in the Afghanistan war.

Pressure. And the media's 24-hour news cycle-glorification of death, killing, and suicide.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-21-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
29,022 posts, read 27,997,873 times
Reputation: 36578
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trimac20 View Post
The spike was in the late 00s and early 10s, before WWI. By the time 1918 comes around there's a sharp decline, actually.

I actually think wars would've reduced suicides as people realised how lucky they were to be alive. You can see the second steep decline coincides precisely with the early 1940s, World War II.
The peak was before WWI. Maybe it was (Upton Sinclair) The Jungle syndrome.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Psychology
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2021, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top