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Old 11-14-2022, 06:11 AM
 
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I think I've found it: Behavioral Activation. That's a new one on me! However, I don't find anyone nearby who offers that.
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Old 11-14-2022, 07:49 AM
 
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BTW: I don't agree that "just clicking" with somebody is enough... I "clicked" okay with the last one; it's just that he had absolutely nothing to offer but the suggestion that I go on antidepressants. I believe I have a right to expect some actual therapy from someone who claims to be a therapist as well as the skills to engage in that!
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:03 AM
 
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BTW: I don't agree that "just clicking" with somebody is enough... I "clicked" okay with the last one; it's just that he had absolutely nothing to offer but the suggestion that I go on antidepressants. I believe I have a right to expect some actual therapy from someone who claims to be a therapist as well as the skills to engage in that!
It's not uncommon to recommend medication in the beginning, and therapy during that time to teach you how to act positively on your own so you can get off meds. All of therapy is work on the patient's side.

But totally understand if someone isn't interested in medication, that would be my last choice also.

This might be a good resource for you to start at home without a therapist (until you find one):

https://medicine.umich.edu/sites/def...Depression.pdf

(I'm not saying you are depressed, just almost everything on behavioral activation is that it is for depression and mood disorders)
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:14 AM
 
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It's not so much "depression" as (behaviorally) malaise, demotivation, stagnation, lack of energy, paralysis, ennui, indecision and (emotionally) disappointment, discouragement, disheartenment, and grief. Easier to call it "depression," but I neither want nor - I believe - need drugs. One good day perks me right up, and that doesn't happen with real clinical depression, which I've also had in the past. I just need to find a way to have more good days! It's definitely a lack of positive experiences and rewards in my current (dull) life...

BA seems to fit the bill.

I'm sorry, but one doesn't go to a psychologist or "talk therapist" and walk away with a recommendation for drugs; one can go to one's GP and get that a lot faster and cheaper. It's the lazy way out, IMHO. As with every other disorder today, we just throw drugs at it and hope that works, having nothing else in our wheelhouse. Increasingly we're learning that they don't even really work, to say nothing of the worrisome side effects. No thanks!
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Old 11-14-2022, 09:21 AM
 
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It's not so much "depression" as (behaviorally) malaise, demotivation, stagnation, lack of energy, paralysis, ennui, indecision and (emotionally) disappointment, discouragement, disheartenment, and grief. Easier to call it "depression," but I neither want nor - I believe - need drugs. One good day perks me right up, and that doesn't happen with real clinical depression, which I've also had in the past. I just need to find a way to have more good days! It's definitely a lack of positive experiences and rewards in my current (dull) life...

BA seems to fit the bill.

I'm sorry, but one doesn't go to a psychologist or "talk therapist" and walk away with a recommendation for drugs; one can go to one's GP and get that a lot faster and cheaper. It's the lazy way out, IMHO. As with every other disorder today, we just throw drugs at it and hope that works, having nothing else in our wheelhouse. Increasingly we're learning that they don't even really work, to say nothing of the worrisome side effects. No thanks!


As long as your system is working for you, that's all that matters.
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Old 11-15-2022, 10:24 AM
 
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...and therapist would most closely approximate life coaching/a life coach while still being legitimate, credentialed, licensed, and billable by insurance -- none of which life coaches generally seem to be*?

*apologies to life coaches
MSW's. But you'd have to check with your insurance company; different insurance co's have different requirements as to what type of "therapist" they'll pay for. Some only pay for PhD's in psych or psychotherapy, so an MSW wouldn't fly. But others are more flexible.
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Old 11-15-2022, 10:42 AM
 
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MSW's. But you'd have to check with your insurance company; different insurance co's have different requirements as to what type of "therapist" they'll pay for. Some only pay for PhD's in psych or psychotherapy, so an MSW wouldn't fly. But others are more flexible.
When looking for a doctor I go to my insurance's website, that way I know they are covered, and I can look at their bio's from there.
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:47 AM
 
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If you can find a good cognitive behavioral therapist they can really help you make changes and fairly quickly if you aren’t clinically depressed.
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Old 11-17-2022, 07:53 AM
 
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A life coach in the US is not under insurance most of the time, they tend to be more available 24-7, but they are expensive. They also tend to be more helpful with boosting your life socially and possibly with networking. I think therapists tend to be experts emotionally moreso, and also the time is limited to your session with them usually, which can be too constricting, but better than nothing.
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Old 11-20-2022, 08:07 AM
 
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It isn't always worthwhile to go through insurance. The diagnosis will be there in your records and you will still have a copay. A friend of mine had a $65 copay. Five sessions = $320. You may as well find someone who will give you an out of pocket rate.

I suggest finding a life coach that will quote you an out-of-pocket rate for a set amount of sessions, for example, 5 sessions, and you will just have to pay it out of pocket if you want this service bad enough. Years ago I found a life coach--really a career counselor--who charged a set amount of money for 5 sessions and during those sessions, she gave me a number of standardized personality tests and we discussed possible career changes for me. Her recommendations were eye opening. Before seeing her, I was very discouraged with a dead end career and with her help, I discovered a path forward to a career change. It was well worth it to go to her and have all of these tests done and see what she recommended for me. I spent maybe $500 for 5 sessions. It was well worth it. Put it this way--you are probably spending this amount of money on salon appointments and clothes and eating out and booze. Why not give up those things for a few months and invest the money in your well being?
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