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Old 06-30-2018, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Pit bulls are approximately 7% of all dogs and account for 70% of all fatal and disfiguring attacks in the US.
Sad, really.
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Old 06-30-2018, 04:32 PM
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Pit bulls are approximately 7% of all dogs and account for 70% of all fatal and disfiguring attacks in the US.
In the immortal words of Mark Twain, "there are lies, damn lies, and statistics". The problem with such statistics is how are pit bulls are identified. It is usually through some "visual" judgement, which is of course highly inaccurate and influenced by personal bias. In any case, if you want to read a bit more, have a gander at The Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics Behind Dog Bites from the Huffington Post.
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Old 06-30-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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In the immortal words of Mark Twain, "there are lies, damn lies, and statistics". The problem with such statistics is how are pit bulls are identified. It is usually through some "visual" judgement, which is of course highly inaccurate and influenced by personal bias. In any case, if you want to read a bit more, have a gander at The Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics Behind Dog Bites from the Huffington Post.
The author complains about bad statistics, but I found it hard to take him seriously because of his obvious bias towards these animals. He won't even consider for a minute that they could be harmful.
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Old 06-30-2018, 09:19 PM
 
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I never thought to challenge the Pit Bull stereotype until a couple years ago and now I am a firm believer that its more about the individual dog, not the breed.

A couple years ago we decided to adopt a second dog and looked all over for the right fit. We ended up finding a dog at Saving Grace that seemed like a perfect fit for us. This was confirmed after a 2nd visit where we did some doggie speed dating sessions with our current dog, a shepherd mix. Of the 4-5 dogs we checked out for the 2nd time he stood out as the right dog for us and our current dog.

He seemed like the perfect dog. We couldn't understand why nobody else wanted him as Saving Grace mentioned he was there for 6 months. They told us "he's probably still here because he looks like a pit bull to some."

So we had concerns about that as well not really knowing anything about the breed. All we knew was the stereotypes you hear on the internet and TV. We called our Vet and asked his opinion. He was pretty adamant that we should focus on the dog, not the breed, and if he checked out otherwise he'd be totally fine with a pit bull. He said they are actually one of the easiest dogs for him to work on and many others (like shepherds and many small dog breeds) tend to give him more trouble. He said most pit bulls are really friendly to him but of course there are some bad ones - just like any other breed - but on a percentage basis he didn't think they were worse than any other. The main issue is they are all over the place around here so that's why you hear more about it.

So we went ahead and adopted him and it couldn't have worked out any better. He's happy all the time, gets along great with our other dog and is great with all people/kids.
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Old 07-01-2018, 05:21 AM
 
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I never thought to challenge the Pit Bull stereotype until a couple years ago and now I am a firm believer that its more about the individual dog, not the breed.

"Judge the deed, not the breed"
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Old 07-01-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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Anyone who thinks Pit Bulls do not kill/attack more than any other breed is not very smart. It is silly and absurd to think otherwise. We should follow other countries and completing ban them. We would be much better off without them.
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:10 AM
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Anyone who thinks Pit Bulls do not kill/attack more than any other breed is not very smart. It is silly and absurd to think otherwise. We should follow other countries and completing ban them. We would be much better off without them.
The ASPCA, Humane Society, and CDC and AVMA disagree with you.
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:35 AM
 
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So what. I would not expect those organizations to do otherwise. Check what insurance companies/risk managers and see what they think.
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:56 AM
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So what. I would not expect those organizations to do otherwise. Check what insurance companies/risk managers and see what they think.
State Farm, at least, doesn't care about the dog's breed.
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We do not ask nor do we care what breed of dog is owned by a person. So when we are writing home owner’s insurance, rental insurance, or renewing policies, it is nowhere in our questions what breed of dog is owned.
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Old 07-02-2018, 09:43 AM
 
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You can defend Pit Bulls if you would like. The facts are on my side. They are the most dangerous popular breed and it isn't close. They kil/injure more than any other breed in the USA.
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