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"Hospitals and health care workers are strained." -Gov. Cooper
They're not. Health care workers have been and continue to work their normal shifts. Picking up extra shifts is optional. Nothing new there. Hospitals are not overwhelmed. In fact, hospitals are a revenue-producing entity. When they're occupancy rate is below 85% they're losing money. Hospitals want to be near capacity.
Shame on you chicken Coop for fear mongering.
And what I don't understand is if the mandates and lockdowns didn't work the first time why are we doing it all again?
"Hospitals and health care workers are strained." -Gov. Cooper
They're not. Health care workers have been and continue to work their normal shifts. Picking up extra shifts is optional. Nothing new there. Hospitals are not overwhelmed. In fact, hospitals are a revenue-producing entity. When they're occupancy rate is below 85% they're losing money. Hospitals want to be near capacity.
Shame on you chicken Coop for fear mongering.
And what I don't understand is if the mandates and lockdowns didn't work the first time why are we doing it all again?
Would you grow up you selfish man child and stop trying to minimize a topic that has caused so much pain and likely long lasting suffering for so many around the world. I swear, you are one of the worst posters on this forum and I've about had enough reading your tripe that I had to create an account.
"Hospitals andhealth care workers are strained." -Gov. Cooper
They're not. Health care workers have been and continue to work their normal shifts. Picking up extra shifts is optional. Nothing new there. Hospitals are not overwhelmed. In fact, hospitals are a revenue-producing entity. When they're occupancy rate is below 85% they're losing money. Hospitals want to be near capacity.
Shame on you chicken Coop for fear mongering.
And what I don't understand is if the mandates and lockdowns didn't work the first time why are we doing it all again?
How do you know? Have you spoken with nurses, physicians or other health care workers working on COVID-19 floors?
This is why I (and many others) refuse to take anything you say seriously.
That's because labs operate 1/2 a day to a day behind. There are fewer specimens collected on Saturday, and hardly any collected on Sunday unless one is IN a hospital. If one works for a lab, they often have Black Friday as the company Thanksgiving holiday.
"Hospitals and health care workers are strained." -Gov. Cooper
They're not. Health care workers have been and continue to work their normal shifts. Picking up extra shifts is optional. Nothing new there. Hospitals are not overwhelmed. In fact, hospitals are a revenue-producing entity. When they're occupancy rate is below 85% they're losing money. Hospitals want to be near capacity.
Shame on you chicken Coop for fear mongering.
And what I don't understand is if the mandates and lockdowns didn't work the first time why are we doing it all again?
BS, total BS! Shame on you!
Do you work in healthcare? There are areas in the state where hospital capacity it high and you can bet your --- those workers are strained! Plus, the daily anxiety of making sure you do not bring this home to family is a stressor. Oh and nursing home staff is strained beyond belief. They have not had a break since this started. That is not fear mongering, that is reality.
Their TV reporting is that any test within 4 days of infection has a 100% false negative rate - that you will ALWAYS test negative. And treat this as current information. That does not appear to jibe with the underlying source however. And the original study was in May
In the report on the findings published May 13 in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine, the researchers found that the probability of a false negative result decreases from 100% on Day 1 of being infected to 67% on Day 4. The false negative rate decreased to 20% on Day 8 (three days after a person begins experiencing symptoms). They also found that on the day a person started experiencing actual symptoms of illness, the average false negative rate was 38%. In addition, the false negative rate began to increase again from 21% on Day 9 to 66% on Day 21.
The study, which analyzed seven previously published studies on RT-PCR performance, adds to evidence that caution should be used in the interpretation of negative test results, particularly for individuals likely to have been exposed or who have symptoms consistent with COVID-19.
Their TV reporting is that any test within 4 days of infection has a 100% false negative rate - that you will ALWAYS test negative. And treat this as current information. That does not appear to jibe with the underlying source however. And the original study was in May
I came across that source the other day after searching for info after reading this thread and hearing about so many people traveling and getting together for the holiday. While it's possible WRAL may have have overstated some numbers and the info may not be super current, the overall message seems to line up with what many experts are saying which is that a negative test result, particularly without quarantining for several days before and after, is not especially meaningful.
I came across that source the other day after searching for info after reading this thread and hearing about so many people traveling and getting together for the holiday. While it's possible WRAL may have have overstated some numbers and the info may not be super current, the overall message seems to line up with what many experts are saying which is that a negative test result, particularly without quarantining for several days before and after, is not especially meaningful.
I 100% understand - and expect not everyone does - that a test today may neither be accurate (a real false neg/pos) nor meaningful since you can contract Covid tomorrow. And now I understand that in the first several days generally that the viral load may not be sufficient to be detected by the test.
But I do expect the media to be accurate and transparent. And the government moreso except for national security. And what this story as presented, and much of the info the government is providing, is neither.
If the "message" was a cautionary "Hey, it's cool that you're trying to 'do the right thing' and get tested before traveling, but please understand this doesn't replace social distancing" - great.
For whatever reasons, they (HCP's at CDC/FDA/state DHHS') either don't have a clue and are scared to admit it, or they DO know something and have chosen not to disseminate it, or are ignoring it.
And sadly, not only is neither acceptable, but it seems to a layman like me that they IGNORE it. When 60-80% of a problem is so easily identified (older people & especially congregate living), then the lack of major focus of resources and attention on that readily-identifiable demographic is an abdication of duty to us all.
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