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Old 09-06-2011, 07:36 PM
 
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Actually, the correct English grammar would be: "Actually, it's the native speakers that spell like this."

I guess none of us is perfect, go figure.
Was that intentional?
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:36 PM
 
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By the way, going overboard on what "sounds" like good grammar is just as embarrassing for a person with a good command of the language to hear.

Ex: "That man gave he and I an odd look."

The rule: It's easy. Separate each out into its own short sentence. "That man gave he an odd look. That man gave I a good look."

No. Actually, it would be "him and me." But that sounds incorrect to some people so they chop up the language in a different way instead.

Nobody is perfect. If good English is your thing, find a writer. It's not hard to do, especially on the internet. OP: Just make sure she doesn't require appropriate punctuation.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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It doesn't hurt to spell check/proof read though.
Spell check doesn't catch ignorance. There was a whole paragraph circulating the Web that made it perfectly fine through a spell checker, but it was all wrong.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:37 PM
 
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Afraid not. That applies to objects, not people.
No, it applies to people.

ETA: Well smack my doggie, we're both right. So you were wrong to correct me and I was wrong to correct you. One learns something new each day! (Or...you learn something new each day. ; )

Heritage Dictionary:

It is entirely acceptable to write either the man that wanted to talk to you, or the man who wanted to talk to you.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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It's NOT a typo! You can see it on this forum, too, all the time!



Actually, it's the native speakers who spell like this.
Then you can shred me. I re-read some of my posts before I hit send, and some sentences are hardly... coherent. My brain goes faster than my fingers.... or my fingers go faster than my brain.

If I didn't re-read gawd only knows what I send out.

Though, when I did online dating, I made an effort to NOT sound like an idiot.

But if I found it that shocking, I just wouldn't respond to the person behind the profile.

I mean, I had to deal with a guy who was pretty adamant about knowing my status on oral sex at our first chat (sent him packing). My god, we're in our forties, some decorum please.

What the OP is complaining about is fluff.



(and re-reading this I seem awfully concerned about calling upon a deity. Definitely would edit out the repetition. /lolo
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:39 PM
 
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Was that intentional?
Yes, and it was (is) correct English. "None of us is perfect." (i.e. "Not one of us is perfect.") The Object here is "none" (not one or no one), which is singular, not "us", which of course is plural.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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Was that intentional?
That's fine.

None is or None are?
"None has been both singular and plural since Old English and still is. [. . .] If in context it seems like a singular to you, use a singular verb; if it seems like a plural, use a plural verb. Both are acceptable beyond serious criticism" (Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage).


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Old 09-06-2011, 07:40 PM
 
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By the way, going overboard on what "sounds" like good grammar is just as embarrassing for a person with a good command of the language to hear.

Ex: "That man gave he and I an odd look."

The rule: It's easy. Separate each out into its own short sentence. "That man gave he an odd look. That man gave I a good look."

No. Actually, it would be "him and me." But that sounds incorrect to some people so they chop up the language in a different way instead.

Nobody is perfect. If good English is your thing, find a writer. It's not hard to do, especially on the internet. OP: Just make sure she doesn't require appropriate punctuation.
Good grammar and spelling shouldn't be expected of writers or professors exclusively. It's basic, common knowledge that's taught to us in Elementary and Middle school. I don't know why people decide to butcher it the way they do. It makes me cringe.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:41 PM
 
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But if I found it that shocking, I just wouldn't respond to the person behind the profile.
There you go. Problem solved in one swift action (or lack of action).
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:42 PM
 
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Many people nowadays are horrible spellers. Others are almost functionally illiterate. With the advent of smartphones and texting, the English language and it's attendant rules are woefully left in a sorry state. If correct grammar and spelling are important to you, then look for women who are writers or English majors. No use getting your tighty whiteys further in a twist over this imperfection. Your little grammar-correct sweetie is somewhere out there wondering where you are now!
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