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Old 01-13-2012, 11:08 AM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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Selfish? No.

Naive? YES.

If a woman wants your sperm, she's gonna get it!!!!
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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creative thread title. .... uh....
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Yes.... I was expecting something else

Really. I was expecting something about a turkey baster.

That said, my thoughts on this will probably be in the minority here, but I feel that unless both spouses definitely want to try to conceive, they shouldn't. It doesn't matter what the reasons are if one does not feel it is the right time. It's not a matter of making one spouse or the other happy, either. It's about bringing a kid into the world whom both parents actively wanted. Anything less isn't fair to the kid, especially when you consider the resentment that can build up in the spouse who would rather have waited, either toward the other spouse (possibly resulting in divorce) or to the kid (possibly affecting parenting).

Also, if the situation were reversed, I can't imagine many people telling a woman she should go ahead and have a baby just because her husband wanted one. Yes, the woman is the one whose body goes through the pregnancy and birth, but I don't think that really makes a difference. Egg is to sperm for the purposes of this discussion.

Would I make moving a condition for conceiving? No. I would focus on the fact that I am not happy with the current arrangement.

So, OP, is there nothing you an do to cut back on time with your in-laws, without moving?

And not for nothing, but you mention that you and your wife both have jobs that would be okay with the move. Thing is, 200 miles is far. Are you going to commute? Or put in for a transfer? Because if you are hedging your bet on finding another job but in the same field, I would be very careful about that. Jobs are hard to come by these days.

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Selfish? No.

Naive? YES.

If a woman wants your sperm, she's gonna get it!!!!

Getting back to that turkey baster...
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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A man has a right to do what's best for his family as he sees fit. No one really knows to what extent her family meddles. As for marrying the family also I don't believe that. He married the woman and made vows to her..

If he feels his family would have a better environment and opportunity in another location I say go for it. They can always move back if they so choose. Children or no children if they stay near the family and they're that bad the marriage is doomed. It's just a matter of time because he seems like the type who won't take their mess. I wouldn't.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:55 PM
 
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OP, I need to know why you don't like your IL's (yes, I think you're posting about yourself), otherwise, I can't give you an honest opinion. Is your MIL like Marie Barone? If she is, then by all means, hold out for moving. Or if you just don't like your IL's because you don't like the color of their house, then that's selfish.

So what's the real story?
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Canada
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A man has a right to do what's best for his family as he sees fit. No one really knows to what extent her family meddles. As for marrying the family also I don't believe that. He married the woman and made vows to her..

If he feels his family would have a better environment and opportunity in another location I say go for it. They can always move back if they so choose. Children or no children if they stay near the family and they're that bad the marriage is doomed. It's just a matter of time because he seems like the type who won't take their mess. I wouldn't.
Who is extending the so-called "right" for the man to make the decisions? Without the OP here to clarify, we don't know anything about the kind of problems he's referring to. Heck, for all we know, he could be the difficult one but claiming they're unreasonable.

But in the absence of knowing what is so awful about the in-laws that he wants to move, it's not his decision alone. Right now there are two of them, both employed. It was different back in the day when only husbands worked so you went where his job took him. But that's not even the case here, he wants to move to get away from her family, not because of a job transfer.

I don't think the husband is entitled to pull rank and decide they're moving away. IMO, this decision needs to be made and agreed upon jointly, not by bribery, or "holding sperm hostage".
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Well, if you hold your sperm hostage, that encourages her to hold her lady parts hostage. So your whole stand might be a moot point.

Do you really want a relationship built on ultimatums?
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:55 PM
 
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If a woman wants something then it's her "right to want that" but if a guy wants something he's "selfish".

Look, he obviously wants a better life in what he think will be a better city for him and a potential family to be raised. He's expressing what he wants and that he doesn't want to have kids in the current environment. What's wrong with wanting that?

If he won't have kids in the area they live in now, and the wife absolutely won't move and must stay in the same town near her family then they need to think about parting ways.

Neither person is wrong, they just have different wants. And the husband is just expressing how he feels about the situation before making a HUGE decision to start bringing kids into this world.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Selfish? No.

Naive? YES.

If a woman wants your sperm, she's gonna get it!!!!
LOL! True! Your sperm, you can do what you want with it. Unfortunately, most guys WANT to give it away.

I think if either of you aren't ready for kids, then you really shouldn't be having them. Moving aside...
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:11 PM
 
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This is definitely something for discussion before marriage, not after. If it were discussed before marriage, I think it would be a reasonable request. I know how hard it is to accept a family being too involved. After marriage, I think you're stuck.
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:16 PM
 
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You two are seriously headed downhill, TheEarthBeneathMe. I say that based on this and other posts you've made. If you would seriously consider what you're stating in the OP, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN. NO MATTER WHAT. Do NOT do it...bad bad bad idea.

You have such a huge resentment toward her family that it will eventually break the two of you up. Let go and be the bigger person. Is it worth all this?
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