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Old 09-20-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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Also, I have a fat friend that's also short and NATURALLY not very good-looking....and he gets tons of girls.

The only ones that don't get girls that I know are:
1) the ones that don't try
2) the ones that are very negative
3) the ones that are socially awkward

It seems like you would definitely fall under the second category (possibly the first).
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:13 AM
 
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Yes, but if you lose the weight, you will no longer be considered ugly.
that was my point. When I lost weight, women found me to be attractive, but my personality didn't change.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:17 AM
 
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Also, I have a fat friend that's also short and NATURALLY not very good-looking....and he gets tons of girls.

The only ones that don't get girls that I know are:
1) the ones that don't try
2) the ones that are very negative
3) the ones that are socially awkward

It seems like you would definitely fall under the second category (possibly the first).
and as I said to other posters, I have friends who are attractive and friends who are fat and ugly. the attractive ones get the girls and my unattractive friends don't, and they do not fall into any of those categories. Like I said before, its all about experiences we have. You simply are trying to establish your opinion as fact.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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that was my point. When I lost weight, women found me to be attractive, but my personality didn't change.
Honestly, I can't imagine that weight loss that significant wouldn't affect you at all. The people that I know that lost that much weight had way more confidence after they lost the weight. They just seemed to be overall happier people than they were before. And I have several heavy guy friends who have cute, small wives or girlfriends. The guys are all really funny and intelligent.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Yes, but if you lose the weight, you will no longer be considered ugly.
Weight and ugliness are not mutually exclusive. Some people are ugly at all weights. Some people are attractive at all weights. Some people start off as attractive at one weight, and get even more attractive at a different weight. For other people it makes no difference.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:24 AM
 
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Honestly, I can't imagine that weight loss that significant wouldn't affect you at all. The people that I know that lost that much weight had way more confidence after they lost the weight. They just seemed to be overall happier people than they were before. And I have several heavy guy friends who have cute, small wives or girlfriends. The guys are all really funny and intelligent.
I don't know what to tell you, I wasn't any more confident after the weight loss than before. All my thin friends have thin girlfriends or wives, my fat friends, not so much.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:26 AM
 
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Weight and ugliness are not mutually exclusive. Some people are ugly at all weights. Some people are attractive at all weights. Some people start off as attractive at one weight, and get even more attractive at a different weight. For other people it makes no difference.
you have it backwards. That poster was making the case weight had nothing to do with looks. I was the one who said they can be exclusive, not always, but they can be.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:38 AM
 
Location: philippines
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it depends on a man/woman personality..if ever i wud hav a in-danger-specie bf*piece*everyday i wud look for every little thing on him that wud make me fall all over and over
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:02 PM
 
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I believe that the reason why ugly (and even fat) guys don't have hot girlfriends is because they BELIEVE that they can't. They don't have the confidence. That's been my experience. Regardless of the guy's height, looks, and money:

confidence = success
lack of confidence = no success

I had this discussion with one of my really good friends that gets girls the other day. We both agree that confidence and game matter much more, but he disagrees with me in saying that height, looks, and money don't matter. He thinks that if you're only lacking in ONE of those areas, it makes very little difference (ie: the reason why I do very well with girls despite being short....and why he does well with girls despite living at his mom's house being over 30). However, if you're lacking in more than one of those areas, then you'll have problems.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:23 PM
 
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There's a difference between being ugly and not taking care of yourself. Girls will overlook ugliness, but few will overlook a guy that doesn't take care of himself.
It wouldn't matter to me whether a guy was unattractive due to genetics or not taking care of himself. The end result would be the same, i.e. I couldn't be romantically involved with him or desire him sexually.
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