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Now that i'm into my 4th year without a smoke i am very sensitive to those who do smoke, just walking past some one who smokes is now immediately detectable and being in a conversation with a smoker is like talking to an ashtray, and being in a smokers car is overwhelming. i now realize what my wife who never smoked endured for many years when i did smoke. Sorry honey i never knew..
There are people that are discriminated against and judged for things beyond their control. Go cry to them about you being judged for smoking ciggies.
I'm not crying or whining over it at all. I'm not even trying to change it. My sole purpose for starting the thread was to let others who smoke know that they are not the undatable evil-doers they are made out to be in threads like these and they to, have hope at finding love and companionship. Also the thread was started to discuss why if there is so much disdain for smokers, why are so many hooking up? Eh?
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How exactly do people know what the bottom of an ashtray tastes like? I'm a smoker and I don't even know however, I don't go around licking the bottoms of ashtrays.
Lol, neither do they, and if they did, they would see how wrong they were. "They taste like an ashtray" is a now ever popular phrase used by non-smokers that was first started back in the 70's when the dehumanization of smokers and smoking first began. Go ahead and try to find a referance to someone "tasting like an ashtray" before the 70's..... I dare ya!
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Originally Posted by fleetiebelle
No, I've never licked an ashtray, but kissing a smoker doesn't exactly give the kisser a burst of minty freshness. WhipperSnapper, if you want to smoke, that's your deal. But you do have to understand that you've made a choice to do something that's expensive, unhealthy, and that, frankly, reeks. You can get as defensive as you want, but that's not going to change the minds of people who don't want to deal with the side effects of dating a smoker.
Hey thats 100% in my book. And I'm not getting defensive, if you don't want to date a smoker, thats your choice and I'm sure you have your rerasons for making it. All I'm trying to do here is let people know that they are not entirely hopeless just because they smoke.
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Sure, other people might have bad habits, but I've never seen a nail biter react the way smokers do when challenged (e.g. "F you! I'll do what I want, and I'll blow smoke in your face!")
Yeah, thats a pretty ignorant knee-jerk reaction made by a lot of smokers. Ive been in this game for a long time { debating the political implications of anti-smoking laws, advocating for the rights of the private property/business owners, as well as other more general aspects of smoking, such as the dating world } and am much more used to hearing all this stuff by non and anti-smokers to make such an ignorant comment.
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Originally Posted by Dewdrop93
This has nothing to do with hate or dislike - in fact quite the opposite. When you love someone - you don't want to see them do things that are so detrimental to their health. I have very few friends that smoke - and it's not like I lecture them every time I see them - or even some of the time - but my friends know that I wish they would quit because I don't like to see them doing something that is killing them.
Why would people expressing concern for your health want to make you do something to further damage your health?
And once again - it's not like I lecture my friends every time I see them light a cigarette - but I'm an honest person who cares about the people in my life. Like I said - my friends expressed their concern when I was doing something detrimental to my health as well.
I understand it's not about hate or dislike in your case Dew { though for many it is } but I was just letting you know that "for me" someone telling me I need to quit or that I shouldn't do it, just makes me want toi do it more. It's psychological I'm sure, and I can't explain it. It's good that you don't lecture them about it, but you also shouldn't say anything about it or give them a look or whatever, at all or ever. Trust me, we have heard it all before
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Eating a fat sausage sandwich makes me gag .
Uh-oh!! Bad news for hubby.....
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Talk about jonesing for a cigg...damn you, thread!
I know, tell me about it right? Just discussing the subject gives me the urge to light up.
The only one who has a legitimate right to say anything to me about smoking is my Physician which he does. We have a regular routine, he tells me I should quit, I tell him it isn't going to happen anytime soon; conversation is over.
The only one who has a legitimate right to say anything to me about smoking is my Physician which he does. We have a regular routine, he tells me I should quit, I tell him it isn't going to happen anytime soon; conversation is over.
Oh I have to disagree here. They can tell me once, I'll politely respond, they can tell me twice, I'll tell them not to tell me again, they tell me three times, I look for a new doctor.
Oh I have to disagree here. They can tell me once, I'll politely respond, they can tell me twice, I'll tell them not to tell me again, they tell me three times, I look for a new doctor.
You're basically asking your physician not to do his/her job. It would likely be unethical of him not to treat you, which includes informing you and guiding you. In this day and age a smoker can end up with cancer and then get sue happy. Your approach doesn't sound fair to your doc.
You're basically asking your physician not to do his/her job. It would likely be unethical of him not to treat you, which includes informing you and guiding you. In this day and age a smoker can end up with cancer and then get sue happy. Your approach doesn't sound fair to your doc.
I agree Braunwyn. I work in the doctor's office and although I have never seen it happen, doctors are allowed to discharge patients who are repeatedly non compliant. Honestly, it's like a waste of their time.....
(the only thing I have sent discharge letters for are repeated missed appointments and the patient obviously didn't care anyways).
Oh I have to disagree here. They can tell me once, I'll politely respond, they can tell me twice, I'll tell them not to tell me again, they tell me three times, I look for a new doctor.
I don't mind with this Doctor, he is a good doctor and it is more of game than anything. He knows exactly what response he is going to get and I know exactly the words he is going to say. He is my liver specialists and he is a good guy, so no biggie to me. I do understand your point though and I would feel differently I'm sure if it was a Doctor I did not trust and like.
I agree Braunwyn. I work in the doctor's office and although I have never seen it happen, doctors are allowed to discharge patients who are repeatedly non compliant. Honestly, it's like a waste of their time.....
(the only thing I have sent discharge letters for are repeated missed appointments and the patient obviously didn't care anyways).
I don't know if I heard about it here or on the radio, but some physician ended up on the news for not taking patients over a certain weight range/BMI. Yea, it happens.
I don't know if I heard about it here or on the radio, but some physician ended up on the news for not taking patients over a certain weight range/BMI. Yea, it happens.
oh wow. I never heard of that one on here. Maybe it was on the news; maybe they feel like they can't help those obese people because they are usually VERY non compliant? Yes, a private practice CAN refuse patients, many people think that they can't. It's the hospital's ER that cannot refuse service. The ones I work for accept the patients and put up with the non compliance. LOL.
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in my book. And I'm not getting defensive, if you don't want to date a smoker, thats your choice and I'm sure you have your rerasons for making it. All I'm trying to do here is let people know that they are not entirely hopeless just because they smoke.
on here. Maybe it was on the news; maybe they feel like they can't help those obese people because they are usually VERY non compliant? Yes, a private practice CAN refuse patients, many people think that they can't. It's the hospital's ER that cannot refuse service. The ones I work for accept the patients and put up with the non compliance. LOL.
