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That's nice, good for you. I SAID there are many people without the traditional degree that still have good jobs and/or training. I also SAID most women will bypass this requirement if that is the case. I've never known any woman to reject a man on the basis of not having a college degree as long as he was gainfully employed and not 'struggling.' So sorry to break it to you -- they are likely refusing to date you for other reasons....
When did I say degrees guarantee jobs? I didn't. Experience will not always trump a degree. If that's your opinion then so be it. There's tons of people working at Starbucks without degrees too. So what. My point was: men require certain things of women in the looks department and that sucks for those of us not in those realms of consideration, doesn't it? That's just too bad. So to the men without degrees who claim certain women don't want them: That's just too bad.
Bottomline: This thread is going to turn into another 'women only want rich men' thread anyways. I seen it coming from a mile away.
The thing is - do the women actually know how much these guys make that aren't degree holders?
If I'm on a date with a woman and we talk about education and that I don't have a degree, and tell her what I do, she could easily think I make 50k, when in fact I make 150k.
I am also 26 by the way. When I was single and making about this much a few years, I definitely got a vibe that my non-education was an issue despite my $40k vehicle, huge apartment in one of the nicest complexes in the city, etc.
Sorry, but I'm not going to tell a woman on a date how much I make but I'm sure she'll assume.
Regardless, I still didn't have a problem dating whether I made 50k or 150k. I went years with several different dates on women each month, often each week. This still doesn't hide the fact that some were occasionally seemingly turned off by my lack of degree. In fact, it was often the degree holders that seemed to make crappy incomes. The pharmacists and lawyer I went on dates with could haven't of cared less.
Don't have time to read the whole thread, but I reply to answer the topic question.
I'm a woman here. I don't find 'booksmart' men attractive, and I don't like chivalry neither.
I have my own job. I get pay hourly and I also get sale commission, so I am more than capable of taking care of myself. I have my own place, my own car, my own money, and my own things.
Am I rich? Nope, but I sure have enough money in my OWN saving account, that I don't need any man pocket.
I don't need a man with a degree, why should I? What the heck does his degree have anything to do with 'me'?
And I don't get along with rich men anyways, my character is too strong. I will not stroke their ego, I will not go kiss up to them, I will not say things just to make them happy.
We have nothing in common to talk about, beside "Hi" and 'Bye"
My parents hook me up with an older rich Chinese man once, this man have a degree and have business too. To be frank I don't care him, and I'm Chinese myself, lol
So this older man, he want to go to the most expensive restaurant in the city for dinner, I told him I want street food.
So rather he get 'hood' with me, or I force myself to go to expensive restaurant w/him. But why should I force myself to do something I don't want?
Obviously none of us want to compromise, so it just won't work out. It hard to date someone when your values and them are 180 degree difference.
Educated/Rich men likes Classy women, the Good Wife type, the one with degrees just like them.
I don't have any of that, I get out in life at early age, and I struggle myself through life on my own. I have dysfunctional childhood, I don't have a degree. I'm a college dropout, I'm not classy. So there, ain't no rich man gonna go after me, and rich men are not my cup of tea neither.
All my Asian friends married educated/rich men though. They said educated men with degree are good "provider" for family, and they love men with lots of $$$ because it make them feel secure. Whatever float their boats, it their life afterall.
The thing is - do the women actually know how much these guys make that aren't degree holders?
If I'm on a date with a woman and we talk about education and that I don't have a degree, and tell her what I do, she could easily think I make 50k, when in fact I make 150k.
I am also 26 by the way. When I was single and making about this much a few years, I definitely got a vibe that my non-education was an issue despite my $40k vehicle, huge apartment in one of the nicest complexes in the city, etc.
Sorry, but I'm not going to tell a woman on a date how much I make but I'm sure she'll assume.
Regardless, I still didn't have a problem dating whether I made 50k or 150k. I went years with several different dates on women each month, often each week. This still doesn't hide the fact that some were occasionally seemingly turned off by my lack of degree. In fact, it was often the degree holders that seemed to make crappy incomes. The pharmacists and lawyer I went on dates with could haven't of cared less.
I get what you're saying, but the vast majority of people without a degree don't make that kind of money, especially at 26.
Personally, I prefer a woman with a degree in specific fields simply due to the job stability and the fact that they have to be intelligent to be successful in these fields. That doesn't mean that I would rule out a woman without a degree in those fields, but I've noticed, in general, that people without degrees tend to be either lazy or unintelligent. Of course, there are exceptions....
Looking for someone with a 4 year degree (I only have a 2 year so I'm not bias) is not always about money.
It can sometimes (not always) be an indicator of the depth of conversation you can expect from someone. If you're capable of having really deep conversations on the sciences and the other person prefers to talk about sports, it can make for an unfulfilling relationship.
When people think about higher education, we seem to assume that people assume that someone with education is smart, well read, at least, right?
The greater purpose of education aside from providing jobs skills is to enlighten... to have a bigger understanding of our world, our place and how things work together or fit....
When I read a post about someone not accepting someone that doesn't have a degree... I just sort of sigh...... that person making that judgment about another without a degree has missed the boat of life and common sense so far, it's almost laughable... it goes against the very basic concept of education... ... if you follow what I mean... education is about opening the mind..... making snap judgments is closing the mind... an incongruity of sorts....
Defeats the whole conceptual purpose of education....
It's nothing but ego to require a degree in our spouse...
They can't see the forest for the trees......
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