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Old 02-11-2013, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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So many of men here don't bring anything to the table but then they have the audacity to say women who refuse to be their doormat bring nothing.


My opinion of this is if one person is working and the other is not then the person not working does the majority of the chores. Sadly this isn't the case and I have seen where the breadwinner came home and cooked and cleaned. In cases where both work I believe in splitting chores depending on what people like and can do. Years ago I lived with a man who loved cooking and cleaning and worked and he did most of the chores because he enjoyed them and wanted them done a certain way.
If I waited for my husband to come home and cook dinner - I'd never eat! He usually gets home from work between 11:30pm and a little after midnight!
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:00 PM
 
Location: ATL
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Traditional marriage didn't really work for my grandparents. They lived separate lives, only sharing a house and meals. Separate bedrooms, separate lives. That actually wasn't so unusual for that generation and earlier ones. If marriage back then were so successful, the Temperance Movement never would have got off the ground. It was created as an attempt to save the lives of women who were getting beaten to a pulp or killed by alcoholic husbands in the days of no divorce. History doesn't agree with your rose-colored view. You could learn a lot by studying history.
I know what was claimed In history but I do not believe everything that people say. I know if I was a women getting beat by my husband all I would have to do is call my dad or uncle and that problem would have been solved immediately. If I was a lady back then and went home to visit my family with a black eye that problem would have been solved in 30 mins.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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I know what was claimed In history but I do not believe everything that people say. I know if I was a women getting beat by my husband all I would have to do is call my dad or uncle and that problem would have been solved immediately. If I was a lady back then and went home to visit my family with a black eye that problem would have been solved in 30 mins.
Yes, and the Holocaust was a hoax.

You aren't married - you have no chores to split - why are you still commenting on this thread?
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:03 PM
 
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If I waited for my husband to come home and cook dinner - I'd never eat! He usually gets home from work between 11:30pm and a little after midnight!
I couldn't wait that long either and likely if say I was working until 5pm and he was working longer I would definitely come home and fix dinner. Of course for me this is all speculative of course.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:04 PM
 
Location: ATL
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I have spoken to abused women and they were told to just accept it. There were no battered women's shelters and many families were more ashamed of her wanting to leave than being abused.
Well that's the decision they made. More power to them if they want to stay in an abusive marriage. That would have never happened in my family. Imagine me.telling.my.daughter just to deal.with it
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:44 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Well that's the decision they made. More power to them if they want to stay in an abusive marriage. That would have never happened in my family. Imagine me.telling.my.daughter just to deal.with it
Did you understand her post? She said the women had no options (no shelters, etc.) and were told to just put up with it. And from that, you got that "they want to stay in an abusive marriage"?!
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:46 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I know what was claimed In history but I do not believe everything that people say.
How convenient for you.

And btw, historians don't just make up the stuff in the history books. It's not just something "people say". They dig through archives and document everything.



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Old 02-11-2013, 10:50 PM
 
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Did you understand her post? She said the women had no options (no shelters, etc.) and were told to just put up with it. And from that, you got that "they want to stay in an abusive marriage"?!
To him, apparently abuse never happened and it's sad. What he doesn't know is of course back then women didn't have many choices. Many had never worked (or worked in years), there were no shelters and abuse was considered a "family issue" and often less ostracized than divorce. Many men considered women their property to use as they seem fit.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:51 PM
 
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im not a lady but can say its never really a thought in our household "who does what" if it needs to be done we just do it regardless of keeping score card

im going to cook a meal with or without her
im going to clean with or without her
im going to take care of the animals with or without her
etc etc etc...

"score keeping" only happens when there is reason to be. aka: people not doing ANYTHING in the relationship to the point its become a much bigger issue then whos doing what
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:01 PM
 
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Ladies if you don't want to do chores just stay at your place and don't move in with us. Be happy paying 100% of your bills for the rest of your life. You cook and clean at your place and we will do the same at our place. If guys really want a traditional wife look at marrying international women in general. You can't have it all unless you are rich. You need to weight the pros and cons of your decision of your role when you decide that you want to get married
Sounds perfect! I have no desire to clean my BF's house, and he has no desire to work on mine. We are quite happy living apart!
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