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Old 01-14-2014, 01:15 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Probably, but semantics is incredibly important. Especially in written forums. Definitions of words mean something and we have to, as a community/people/culture, use them correctly if we actually wish to communicate well.

There is little out there worse than someone that says "that is just semantics!" and blows off an argument. Misuse of words create misunderstandings.
I agree, it's intellectually dishonest to just blow off an argument and blame it on semantics. I think another factor that factors into these arguments is people basically getting their feelings hurt, and while it's not personal if some woman isn't attracted to me, people still get huffy, specially if you're from a group that is the one that is seen as the lesser than and by someone you perceive to be in said same group, ie, two fat less than attractive people, if one says they aren't interested in you, but yet she's your female equivalent... well...... logic goes out the window and people get offended.

I get that I'm not everyones cup of tea and I'm at an age where I'm starting to become invisible to women, women in their 20's..... which is fine... again, it's not personal, it just is.......


 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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I do get that, but why are you assuming that's what is always going to happen with every single man? Do you think this might be the case of a self-fulfilling prophecy?

Well, if she is talking ONS situations, generally the idea is for both people to get off on/with each other.

Not everyone can do that or is comfortable with that though, and that is fine. It doesn't work for them.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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Outside the "bonds of marriage" "sinful" "immoral behavior"?

We're talking about adults having sex here. Sheesh.
That changes nothing. But this is not the religious forum, so, I'm not going to press on with it. But it's a character trait I don't approve of: denial of sin because one is enslaved to their sexual appetite.

(I haven't had sex in perhaps 10 years yet I still occasionally get irritable over it, irritable from withdrawal from it, which indicates I'm addicted to sex. The fact I often think about having sex indicates I'm addicted to sex too. So, I'm aware of sexual addiction, its sufferings, and that most heterosexuals, such as the woman in the article of post #1, are addicted to sex.)
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:21 PM
 
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Well, huh, I'm not addicted to sex, I just adore ****ing and see no reason whatsoever not not have it (in mutually consenting healthy adult relationships).

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Old 01-14-2014, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Hey now, what's wrong with "fiercely intelligent"? If I state I am "fiercely awesome" it's because it's true, but I may be a tad biased. Just a tad.
I am sure you are fiercely awesome!

But I just find the author's over-the-top bias, complete lack of humbleness, possible delusional narcissism very annoying. If she could have written honestly about her own shortcomings (in body, mind, comic timing...), then her article may have been endearing and illuminating. Instead, she comes across as full of herself, "trying too hard," and likely a liar. If her self-descriptional words were coming from some hot, slim, 22 y.o, I'd still have the same reaction - uh, you're probably not as smart, funny, good in bed as you are so desperately trying to make us believe.

I am very close to people who are truly "fiercely intelligent" (trust me, way beyond the author's intellectual capabilities as an Alternet blogger) and that is the last way the truly brilliant describe themselves. I also have friends who are successful stand-up comedians who do not go around pronouncing they are "deeply hilarious." I don't know any pornstars, but are they really telling everyone they are a "riot in the sack?"

Really, the author's words about herself are nauseating. She is overcompensating - big time. She's saying Uh, I may be really fat, short, and old, but I'm so unbelievably smart, funny, and good in bed.... Yeah, right... How about she focus on her good traits as an actual "person," rather than delusions of grandeur about herself.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Well, if she is talking ONS situations, generally the idea is for both people to get off on/with each other.
Yes. He gets what he wants, she gets what she wants.


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Not everyone can do that or is comfortable with that though, and that is fine. It doesn't work for them.
I get that as well. But on one hand she (and not just JJ, other folks as well) complain that they are undesirable and that they can't get anyone interested in them. Then folks who really are undesirable tell them they shouldn't be so picky (as they themselves have said that people are interested in them - they just don't like them or the circumstance of the interaction) or dismissive of their situation (they do have options, even if they don't want to believe it).

So while I can't tell everyone that they should settle for something not what they want rather than have nothing at all, please understand that more often than not they are in control of their destiny on this matter.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:26 PM
 
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Really, the author's words about herself are nauseating. She is overcompensating - big time. She's saying Uh, I may be really fat, short, and old, but I'm unbelievably smart, funny, and good in bed. Yeah, right...

While I agree with you in general, lets remember, being humble doesn't generate much readership or sell articles.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:29 PM
 
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So while I can't tell everyone that they should settle for something not what they want rather than have nothing at all, please understand that more often than not they are in control of their destiny on this matter.

Oh, I totally agree. They are in complete control.

We see that all over, especially in this forum, the "why can't I find love/affection/sex" countered with the "oh I won't do that / I have standards / sinful" stuff.

People absolutely are their own worst enemies.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: NY
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I am sure you are fiercely awesome!

But I just find the author's over-the-top bias, complete lack of humbleness, possible delusional narcissism very annoying. If she could have written honestly about her own shortcomings (in body, mind, comic timing...), then her article may have been endearing and illuminating. Instead, she comes across as full of herself, "trying too hard," and likely a liar. If her self-descriptional words were coming from some hot, slim, 22 y.o, I'd still have the same reaction - uh, you're probably not as smart, funny, good in bed as you are so desperately trying to make us believe.

I am very close to people who are truly "fiercely intelligent" (trust me, way beyond the author's intellectual capabilities as an Alternet blogger) and that is the last way the truly brilliant describe themselves. I also have friends who are successful stand-up comedians who do not go around pronouncing they are "deeply hilarious." I don't know any pornstars, but are they really telling everyone they are a "riot in the sack?"

Really, the author's words about herself are nauseating. She is overcompensating - big time. She's saying Uh, I may be really fat, short, and old, but I'm so unbelievably smart, funny, and good in bed.... Yeah, right... How about she focus on her good traits as an actual "person," rather than delusions of grandeur about herself.
I agree, but will also add that it is so bad that it comes across to me as most likely being partially to totally fictitious.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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While I agree with you in general, lets remember, being humble doesn't generate much readership or sell articles.
Very true, I would be mortified to put my name/picture to that article - her sheer pompousness and year of NSA f*ck-fest. Is she not embarrassed whatsoever that her parents, co-workers, future employers may see this? Further evidence that she is not as smart as she thinks. I have no problem if someone is a Queen in her own mind, or wants to mount everything around.... I just find it distasteful to read about it.

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I agree, but will also add that it is so bad that it comes across to me as most likely being partially to totally fictitious.
Yes! That is a strong possibility!
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