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So if one spell checks or cares that they made a misspelling now has OCD? Can you really seriously be thinking that?
And as a woman, I do find that when I encounter an intellectual man that enjoys my company, he is very appreciative of my smarts, my sense of dry humour and the inner me. Less educated and intellectual men are much more inclined to be desiring women that are solely a hotties on the outside. And maybe that sort of recognition was once important to me when I was a teenager or in my 20's... but now that I'm almost 50, certainly what I am looking for in companionship are people that love my brain and inner qualities, and are not going to judge me harshly for having some gray hairs, wrinkles and a body that isn't a perfect and toned size 0 or 2. I don't need to surround myself with anyone (male or female) that considers Adriana Lima, Jessica Alba or Scarlett Johansen the pinnacle of female perfection. BTW of course I realize that beautiful looking women are admired by smart well educated men, but these same men also value the company of a smart woman. And in return, I can appreciate and love a guy that is smart and well educated but may not be a 8, 9 or 10 in looks.
And I do agree with robertpolyglot that there are exceptions to every group we ever discuss on this forum. But there is a reason that all of us tend to make stereotypes, there is a reason that they exist. When we make observations (and we all do), if there are patterns that repeat and occur well over 50% of the time, we subconciously make these tallies.
...the real question is if people don't use big words are they imbeciles?
And the answer is a resounding "no." Being a sesquipedalian may be an indicator of education (and, hence, a likelihood -- but certainly no guarantee -- of intelligence), but not being one is definitely NOT an indicator of lack of intelligence.
Regarding character: definitions of character are subjective, but at its core I would ascribe two essential traits to character -- integrity (i.e. honesty, trustworthiness, ethics) and decency (i.e. kindness toward others, consideration, empathy).
Ability to spell has absolutely no bearing whatsoever upon character.
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[quote=miu;5479279]So if one spell checks or cares that they made a misspelling now has OCD? Can you really seriously be thinking that?
Pardon me, madam, I did said, "imagination"! Hahaha!!
If I notice an error, it is a human response to correct it. I'm saying that people can't be judged of how smart they are by simply determining if they spell well or not! It's ridiculous!
So, if you're reading a post, letter, or report from a guy you're interested in because he's intellegent and there's a spelling error that he didn't noticed, would you correct him?
I've never claimed to have excelled academically or been an English major, I'm really quite in the middle of the pack. However in taking a survey of all the people that I've encountered in my lifetime, those that were well spoken and had a degree from a decent college were better friend quality than those who were loser townies or high school dropouts. The types that were adults who stopped trying to learn more or better themselves all their lives are ones that tend to hang out drinking at bars every weekend or hanging out at shopping malls getting themselves further into debt in order to look successful. Educated people tend to go museums, watch indie or foreign movies and other more enlightened activities. Undereducated people also tend to place a greater emphasis on needing to date more of the opposite sex in order to boost their self esteem. My educated friends seem to be able to rationalize and have a more balanced social life and accept any dating dry spells more gracefully than others.
When I talk to an intelligent person, we naturally are able to talk about tons of topics. When I talk to a dumb person, they tend to talk about stupid problems with their S/O or bad luck stories... all the result of their own lack of commonsense and other logical thought processes.
So what if I come across as an intellectual snob? I have enough close friends to keep me happy, they don't bore me and my life is free from unnecessary dramas. I think that overall, everyone eventually finds the right people to surround themselves with, so it's no big deal if someone like myself is pointedly avoiding the less educated and less intelligent ones. And as nothing out of a dumb person's mouth interests me, I'm very sure that none of my thoughts are interesting to them. So on that we're even. Shrug.
I enjoyed your elaborate rant and inner-anger that you have thoroughly expressed toward how you feel in regard to the bottom-dwellers overstepping their boundaries from time-to-time into your world, however, there are three things that formal education cannot buy - class, eloquence, and basic compassion. I am very surprised that you, who feels so above, is not extending a hand to better the world by perhaps gracing the inner-city children with your presence. I take time-out to do so every 4 weeks here in Tampa in a Big Sister Program. To have a better life - one must be exposed, shown, and taught. Not everyone in society has been taught the correct ways like you and I have - or have been allowed formal education. My curiosity is this, the rest is mish-mosh - aside from possible monetary donations, what are you doing to help make a difference first-hand when you are not browsing museums and taking in a foreign film?
This thread reminds me of when we first got Internet, back when AOL was version 1.
Wish I had a dime for every AOL message board post stating (and I quote):
"Your a looser." You could tell they were kids on there just being silly, though.
Most of my family and friends are either math or spelling -literary whizzes.
My nephew writes papers for (now 9th grade) high school and I can't believe all the grammatical errors the teachers do
not acknowledge. He will show them to me with 90-100 grades with no "red pen" marks anywhere! Times they are a changin'!
if you can spell well, it means you are either very careful or have some education both could be good. people will try to "read" you by many methods. dress, body language, tone of voice, hand writing, even painting. you don't have to be sane to try any of these methods of reading people and then launch a character assault right afterwards.
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I was just talking about this old topic, last night and was curious enough to bring it up again. I still think it does. Maybe they've been unrealted, but most of the women I've known, that have turned out to be flakes or they did something over the top mean, couldn't spell, in a few cases, they got most of the words they spelled wrong.
Some of the most intelligent folks I know...can hardly write their own name. They've got years of hands on experience...and can run circles around the engineer school boy types I work with. These guys didn't sit in college 4 or more years on Daddy's dime. They've been out there getting their hands dirty since 8th grade. And some are well over millionaires.
Wow, I cain't belieeve some of da' condescending, juja-mental tone of some of ya'll posters in herr. Frohm now-ownn I best be watchin' every little word I write makin' sure I ain't made any sphelling misthakes or usin' any short versions words. Ya know what'Im saying?
I shure wouldn't want some of ya'llz thanking anyting of tehm jugements about me.
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Just looking for opinions on this. I have found a lot of people, that have character issues, usually have at least below average, or even poor, spelling. These are examples from folks that I have had big time run ins with: riddence instead of riddance, leeves instead of leaves and toilette instead of toilet.
I'm not saying that educated folks and above average spellers are not buttholes at all, but, there seems to be a pattern for me, in my experience. However, bad grammar may play into "education about life" on an overall basis.
What do you all think? I put up a yellow flag to folks, when I see bad grammar and spelling, maybe I should not, but it is what it is.
Well, if incorrect punctuation is a manifestation of character, then you're one bad hombre, my friend.
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