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Old 10-04-2014, 08:18 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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*sigh*

Men look at aggressive women as simply that - desperate and/or controlling. They might respond positively, but they arent thinking, "This could be the mother of my children", unless they are a passive man.

Men can expect to be ignored for many reasons, but even if they approach perfectly, they should expect to get turned down a few times. Most ladies need to observe you for a bit before responding positively.

I think online dating hinders that process greatly. I know the line my husband used to finally get my positive reaction would have gone over like a lead balloon by text.
I think that is a boomer and gen x way of seeing things..

Gen y seems to be more interested in stroking it to internet porn and playing x box... so if a woman threw herself at them they wouldn't mind.

Generalization of course, not true across the board... I'm sure that there are still men in the Gen Y group.....
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Old 10-04-2014, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Jupiter
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I'll be very honest here. I failed miserably at it today, my first ever shot at approaching.
Most men do.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:46 PM
 
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The downer of rejection has absolutely no pertinence to the given interaction between the two individuals. It completely and only involves/revolves-around you. The downer is merely insecurity about yourself, doubt about yourself.


The zen state is being able to get rejected and feel absolute indifference about it. Why? Because you are just that confident in yourself and who you are as a person. Actually I kind of like it…getting a mean girl to smile, laugh, and let her guard down, relax and just have fun. She can jab me, stab me, crush me under her stiletto heal, and like drops of mercury, I re-puddle and come back for more.


Personally, I think the best approaches are off-the-cuff. Simple inquires like "I've been waiting for you to dance all night" can quite easily start a conversation. Women don't go out to simply sip their fruity drink with crossed legs and call it night. They desperately want to let their hair down.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:58 PM
 
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I think that is a boomer and gen x way of seeing things..

Gen y seems to be more interested in stroking it to internet porn and playing x box... so if a woman threw herself at them they wouldn't mind.

Generalization of course, not true across the board... I'm sure that there are still men in the Gen Y group.....
This must be take cheap shots at the youth day or something. I wonder what all the hate is about.
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Old 10-04-2014, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Doesn't like conversations? I would tell them to start to like talking to people. We're a social species and there are a crapload of super cool people out there, of both genders, married and single, that you can learn from and have a good time talking to. Talking to people is its own reward.

No one wants to hang out or talk to people that can't have or don't like talking to people. Who the hell would want to be with someone that doesn't want to talk to them? What they heck do you want to meet a woman since you don't want to talk to them? That is what I do mostly with my GF, we talk. That is how we met, we were at a bar and we ended up talking.

Besides, even if you could fall into hooking up with a woman by sheer luck even though you can't talk to them, you wouldn't keep em around for more than a night. You'd be a failure of another type.

I'm a total introvert. People exhaust me. I prefer solo activities. You know what? I go out and talk to people anyways, because I live in society and it is a good thing to do, and I've always been rewarded for it, despite it being exhausting and sometimes anxiety producing.
As a fellow introvert sitting at home on a Saturday night doing nothing, this gives me hope.
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Old 10-04-2014, 10:37 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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This must be take cheap shots at the youth day or something. I wonder what all the hate is about.
Not a cheap shot at all... just a simple observation... nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 10-05-2014, 12:02 AM
 
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Not a cheap shot at all... just a simple observation... nothing more, nothing less.
And yet you've been conveniently ignoring all the young men out there in relationships.
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Old 10-05-2014, 12:11 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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And yet you've been conveniently ignoring all the young men out there in relationships.
I'm a middle aged guy 45..... I've been in charge of hiring, mentoring, training, working alongside young men for the last 25 yrs.....

I'm pretty dialed into what young guys do and in all fairness most of the young men I interact with in real life aren't as lame as the crap you see here... my porn and xbox comments still stand.... I say this with some level of accuracy as like I said I work alongside young men all day and every day... you get a sense of people after a while and in compete fairness no... not across the board as I've even been so fair as to mention previously, but you got butt hurt and didn't read the disclaimer I let off earlier so I'll do it again for clarity sake do all young gen y's sit around and crank it to porn and play x box and and avoid life with real women???

NO... can we agree a disclaimer was noted... can we all see that I made the disclaimer... make a note, post it on the fridge... my original point was that enough due to warrant the millions of internet articles talking about the 20's something generation whether those articles are negative or not....

So please don't come back at me with a generalization as I've covered any possible references to me casting broad nets here....
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Old 10-05-2014, 07:57 AM
 
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I'm not even talking about Ruth's post anymore.

I'm just saying guys who have this mindset think attention is EVERYTHING when it isn't. It gets old REALLY fast. If they don't genuinely care about me or how I feel and vice versa, I don't want anything to do with them.

As I said, attention doesn't mean a GOT DAMN thing if their intentions are not good. It's hollow and pointless.

There is more to dating/relationships than just getting guy/girl and attention.
OK I know this a earlier post but I just have to throw my .02 cents in. How the hell do you know what his intentions are if you possibly don't give him enough time to talk to you? LOL.I think your statement was silly. Its funny how a girl is like, "oh he just wants to bang and whatever", and most of the time when a guy approaches a woman, she writes him off before they actually get into a good conversation. Unbelievable!
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:49 AM
 
Location: In a place beyond human comprehension
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OK I know this a earlier post but I just have to throw my .02 cents in. How the hell do you know what his intentions are if you possibly don't give him enough time to talk to you? LOL.I think your statement was silly. Its funny how a girl is like, "oh he just wants to bang and whatever", and most of the time when a guy approaches a woman, she writes him off before they actually get into a good conversation. Unbelievable!
You don't live in the area I live in and therefore you don't know what kind of crappy approaches men take where I live. And obviously you didn't read the examples I posted.

If someone comes up to you and says stupid shiit like "what up sexy, or aye girl, come of over here." It's pretty obvious what their intentions are. I'm not stupid.

If someone came up to me with a simple, "Hi or Hey how are you?" I would be much more receptive. Talk to me like you have some sense and I won't write you off.

It's pretty clear. Even the guys I am friends with agree with the way I react to they way those guys approach me. So clearly I am doing something right, not that I need their validation to realize that. Just saying.
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