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You have no evidence, that is my point! and you just proved it.
....there is no narrow minded on my part, as I am using very basic psychology.
Again, read up on prostituion in Narcissistic personality disorder, Histrionic personality disorder, and Borderline personality disorder.
YOU are too narrow minded to see what is real and what is not! It is really not me.
Let me break it down for you Brenda.
The majority of prostitutes are doing so not because they cannot do anything else with their lives, it is because they are addicted to being the center of attention all the while being taken advantage of. Many prostitutes are addicted to sex, which is a narcissist supply, while others HATE sex. Women who were absused sexually, for ex: DO NOT LIKE SEX. Most likely borderline and hysteria. However, they will USE the very act they hate to pacify the empty feeling they have against every other "wrongdoer" and claim to be the victim all the while be exploitive.
Narcissists however, will gladly use sex which they NEED and CRAVE to boost their low self esteem and ego.
At the same time, IN OTHER ASPECTS OF THEIR LIVES outside of prostitution, prostitutes WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE of others to fufill their own needs and that same self centeredness. That means money, control, basic relationships, etc.
Then the most important thing, is that THEY will claim to be the victim and THEY are being taken advantage of. That THEY are forced to prostitute because they cannot do anything else. That everyone else is the problem and THEY are the ones who are the "survivors" in this mean , awful world.
All the the while we KNOW that this is not true. They are using sex and their often very shallow, self centered and typically extremely exploitive lifestyle to PROVE to others, again pathologically, that they are somehow unique and special and no one knows what they possibly are or have gone through. . This is basically full-circle pacifying their need to control, manipulate, etc
This is not a secret but perhaps you are not seeing this. Not ALL prostitutes are like this, but likely 90% are truly pathologically destructive and cannot be changed. As their lives are already decided.
Now Brenda, what you are talking about is the maybe 5-10% of prostitutes, which I will admit, may be worth taking a second look at despite their destructive and manipulative ways....
Uhh, No, that is a form of evidence. Someone's story regarding marriage to a former sex worker is more demonstrated evidence than the articles or books you have read. Writing and Statistics can proof any point if the writer knows what they are doing.
Marylon Monroe sold herself to directors and producers in her career, how she died was sad but you can't deny that she had a heart of gold and a personality to die for. Other women that you may know of who were prostitutes and moved on include; Joan Collins, Sharon Stone, Rene Russo, Lara Flynn Boyl. All these women moved on to become successful actresses and mothers. I guess this group i listed would be in your 5-10% right Brinh?
I assume that you know so much because you personally know 90% of former and current prostitutes right? Because you seem to think that what your saying is the 100% truth, well sadly you are wrong. You do not know 90% of pro's so everything you mentioned is merely an opinion not a fact.
Furthermore to your books, I actually know a couple of former prostitutes personally, and what attributes you have described are not of theirs.
For their privacy i wont disclose details about their stories as im not one to trash another for these type of experiences.
Fair enough, you read that their all mental cases. I get that. But you can't throw them all in the one "90%" group of destructive females and judge them based on other books, research, stereotypes and personal opinion.
The only thing i am saying is to not judge them by stereotypes and if you actually meet a women who was in this predicimant to try and judge her on her personality not her proffession ONLY.
Uhh, No, that is a form of evidence. Someone's story regarding marriage to a former sex worker is more demonstrated evidence than the articles or books you have read. Writing and Statistics can proof any point if the writer knows what they are doing.
Marylon Monroe sold herself to directors and producers in her career, how she died was sad but you can't deny that she had a heart of gold and a personality to die for. Other women that you may know of who were prostitutes and moved on include; Joan Collins, Sharon Stone, Rene Russo, Lara Flynn Boyl. All these women moved on to become successful actresses and mothers. I guess this group i listed would be in your 5-10% right Brinh?
I assume that you know so much because you personally know 90% of former and current prostitutes right? Because you seem to think that what your saying is the 100% truth, well sadly you are wrong. You do not know 90% of pro's so everything you mentioned is merely an opinion not a fact.
Furthermore to your books, I actually know a couple of former prostitutes personally, and what attributes you have described are not of theirs.
For their privacy i wont disclose details about their stories as im not one to trash another for these type of experiences.
Fair enough, you read that their all mental cases. I get that. But you can't throw them all in the one "90%" group of destructive females and judge them based on other books, research, stereotypes and personal opinion.
The only thing i am saying is to not judge them by stereotypes and if you actually meet a women who was in this predicimant to try and judge her on her personality not her proffession ONLY.
You are twisting the argument.
We are talking about MARRYING A PROSTITUTE or EX PROSTITUTE. You are twisting it into an argument of who is successful, or motherly, or something other than what the question is.
I am giving you factual information from when I was in college and studied psych, which was likely when you were in grade school. No offense but this is an argument which, again, you might feel strongly about, and I know your mind will not be changed, but is oe where you are just wrong, period.
I don't really feel needed to go through your post here and point out what is obviously wrong....
But I will say that Marilyn is a great example I was referring to; an exploitive, addictive person who of course had garnerned much success, by using seductive and exploited personality traits. She also went off the deep end , as many sucessful people or not, with personality disorders, do.
Obviously you did no research on the points I have been talking about, otherwise you would not prove my points!
I expect that their children would have shaky social lives when it came to telling their friends what their mother used to do for a living. So this raises another question (and I don't mean to take over the thread): would you desire to have children with an ex-prostitute and would she be a good mother?
Wait a minute...who says you have to tell the kids -- or anybody else, for that matter -- everything you did a long time ago? I see no reason reveal every detail of my past to my children. My parents certainly didn't divulge to me every past sin or mistake. Nor do I see a need to review their resumes and ask probing questions about any employment gaps.
I would not desire to have more kids, period -- I'm in my mid 40's and done with the whole reproduction thing. But it seems to me you have to look at who the person is NOW about whether she would be a good mother.
And lets not forget too, that there are countless prostitutes in this world who are doing what they do in order to feed themselves and their kids...and sometimes their husbands. And though none of these women are going to win a Nobel prize -- and plenty of them are some pretty whacked out people leading disastrous, train-wreck lives -- there are many of them, too, doing the best they know how to raise kids (remarkably well at times, given the circumstances) in a tough world that has probably dealt them few, if any, breaks...and dealt them more than a few tough hands.
Doubtful! But I'm also a firm believer of not entering into a relationship with someone who brings into it more baggage than will fit in the overhead compartment.
Of course, that's dependent upon knowing the facts beforehand. But relationships are difficult and enough hard work to begin with. Why knowingly enter into one with someone who has or could have major issues?
Of course again, that's dependent upon whether or not you've fallen in love anyway!
Look, as I've posted here, after stumbling onto this forum through the counseling "board" we've been part of for three decades now, to lump everyone into a "one" is as silly as saying "one" sets the standard for everyone. Did one of our daughters ask to be born with a genetic construct that turned out to make her a text-book (yes, she has been written up in several refereed medical journals along with thousands like her) nymphomaniac? No. To get the sexual gratification she needed, nay demanded, did she turn to prostitution? Yes. Her physical/psychotic needs for sexual gratification, often more times in one day than 99% of you have in months is a sickness that is controlled by who and with whom she obtains her required gratification. Is she a street hooker? No. She is a professional woman who receives various forms of gratuity in addition to meeting her needs. Oh, and she graduated from high school AND college, was briefly married to an anesthesiologist (he knew fully of her condition) and they divorced ONLY because he wanted to settle down and have children and she does not. Today she owns a very successful business in addition to owning and operating a prosperous, upscale escort service made up of people that just might be your wife, daughter, son, nextdoor neighbor, teacher, councilman/woman, etc.
Do NOT pontificate that everyone fits a certain mold. To do so would be like taking the personal pronoun "I" out of the English language and you can't do that...any more than our daughter can stop or suppress her needs and demands.
Now, forced prostitution, is an entirely different subject.
One of the wives/mother in our counseling circle is a full minister in her church and yet is as full-fledged a numphomaniac as is our daughter.
I'll match the honesty and integrity of my special daughter with 75% of the "straight" men or women you know.
The only thing separating from prostitutes is the money factor. I knew a lot of women/men that slept around but didn't get paid. To me, there is no difference. Does one really know of their significant others background? I think not. Just my opinion.
The only thing separating from prostitutes is the money factor. I knew a lot of women/men that slept around but didn't get paid. To me, there is no difference. Does one really know of their significant others background? I think not. Just my opinion.
And many women who just sleep around get their rewards in many other ways other than cash. Clothes, support, rent are all very common. Yet they don't consider this a form of prostitution.
The only thing separating from prostitutes is the money factor. I knew a lot of women/men that slept around but didn't get paid. To me, there is no difference. Does one really know of their significant others background? I think not. Just my opinion.
And many women who just sleep around get their rewards in many other ways other than cash. Clothes, support, rent are all very common. Yet they don't consider this a form of prostitution.
Correcto!!!!!
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Would u marry an ex prostitute?
