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Old 03-19-2016, 09:09 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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I find this interesting. Not that both genders don't enjoy sex, but there is something different going on.

For example the sex industry. This is a multibillion dollar industry and the vast majority is geared toward men. On the other side of things, women are the ones primarily doing sexual acts for money. Women paying for male models/prostitutes is in the vast minority.

It seems that women are attracted more to the money and men more to the experience. Women not really interested in the sex as much but interested in what they can get from the sex (money, status, etc).

Thoughts...
The sex that a Woman gives out is like Gold , Platinum and Diamonds (but) on the other hand Men give
out sexual experiences that are more akin to a roll of copper wire. Therefore the demand for copper wire
is not to the level of Platinum and Diamonds , therefore male sex worker are rare compared to female sex
workers for that simple reason.
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:28 AM
 
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]If you don't want to believe that many women who enter the sex trade do so out of survival, being pimped/bought/sold into the industry, or do it because of past trauma, that's fine. But a little research would prove you wrong.

The sex industry is geared toward men because men believe access to sex/porn is their god-given right as men, and feel no need to reign in their urges. Prostitution doesn't exist because the women want money; prostitution exists because men will always buy sex, and those who buy it don't care who they get it from or if she's there voluntarily.
I'm sorry but concerning the bold just type in your internet browser and you will prove that you are wrong. there are plenty of American women age 18 years and older that are voluntarily and willingly participating in pornography for money, and it looks to be in the majority not minority of those involved in the industry.

It is a misconception that if a woman is participating in pornography or even as an escort that they are forced to be there by something other than their own free will.
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:34 AM
 
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Okay, believe what you wish. If there were a bigger market for male prostitutes, I'm sure the supply would be there. "Gay for pay" already exists. If there were no demand for female sex work, there would be no supply. It seems like you are upset with women for selling but not at men for buying, because it's just an "experience." Sex work can be dangerous, dirty, and disgusting. Are you irritated that prostitutes are compensated for the work they do?
And if there would be no supply, you'd see no demand.

To suggest that the existence of the porn industry is the result of man without the participation of women is not reality.

It suggests that women are somehow more virtuous than men. It looks to be two different motivating factors involved between genders.
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:53 AM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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And if there would be no supply, you'd see no demand.

To suggest that the existence of the porn industry is the result of man without the participation of women is not reality.

It suggests that women are somehow more virtuous than men. It looks to be two different motivating factors involved between genders.
No, I am not saying women are more virtuous than men. You inferred that twice for some reason. The motive for working a paying job is money, true. Why don't more women have potentially risky, possibly deadly sex with strangers for free, strangers they might not ordinarily want to have sex with? That's not really a tough question.

You suppose that there would be no demand for prostitutes if none existed? That's ludicrous. Sex trafficking is caused by the demand for prostitutes and sex slavery. If women everywhere decided to stop selling themselves, the demand would not dry up. Come on. They would be supplied against their will as many of them are now.
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Old 03-20-2016, 12:22 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Given that the average age a sex worker enters the industry is something like 14, I think "attraction to money" is much more basic than that, i.e. "desire to survive" or "feeding a drug addiction."
Just like child labor, sex worker at that age should and needs to be reported. There is an underground community of both johns and working women that are against this as well.... it is reported anonymously. It isn't good for anyone whether you are for sex worker rights or against it. The same goes when anyone suspects that a woman is being held against their will.

It would be a lot easier if sex working was subject to regulation and checks... but that would require some sort of legalization (different debate). Because sex work is illegal here in the US, pretty much all statistics are unreliable (for or against).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...rk-statistics/

Some statistics can be ascertained indirectly.. like (unfortunately) the age of sex workers who were victims of murder. Other times, it is just a sampling; sex workers who report violent crimes committed against them (low), law enforcement officers who leverage the threat of arrest... etc... Most of which aren't much data that cannot be acted on.

Let's take mainstream pornography.... you would be hard pressed to find underaged porn sold through regular adult entertainment channels. It happened in the 80s (Traci Lords) and the whole industry was shaken up by it... till this day (as it should be), her videos made during that time are considered illegal to distribute. The industry (employers) are held responsible, regulation is strict (simply video taping a sex act doesn't preclude it from prostitution laws), and records/proof must be kept.


As for the original question... the answer is simple. We humans are wired in such a manner... it is human nature. Attaching a salary or dollar figure to it doesn't change anything. I believe (know) both men and women enjoy sex to varying degrees. However some women learn quickly just how much leverage sex can be used to their advantage; from the workplace to the other end via pay for sex. IMO, it is all the same...



If anyone suspects anything underaged (whether labor nor sex trade), report it. Absolutely report it. If you suspect human trafficking, absolutely report it. Don't just look for it in sex trade, a large population of human trafficking resides in agricultural, home, nanny, cleaning, and housekeeping services.

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Old 03-20-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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If you don't want to believe that many women who enter the sex trade do so out of survival, being pimped/bought/sold into the industry, or do it because of past trauma, that's fine. But a little research would prove you wrong..
The same can be said for any labor type...

I was a modern-day slave in America - Nov. 21, 2013

Let's not kid ourselves... any labor type can be subject to someone entering into it out of survival or being bought and sold into it. We only single out the sex worker trade because it draws attention and media dollars... Of the labor types that are subject to human trafficking, only sex trade in the US is made illegal.

Stats are difficult, but I know 100% a circle of people are doing it out of choice (mostly supplementary income to another "regular" job). Of course, I'm not going to apply that to the general pop.

Again... look for trafficking victims in all sorts of labor types... and report it!

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Old 03-20-2016, 01:01 PM
 
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I find this interesting. Not that both genders don't enjoy sex, but there is something different going on.

For example the sex industry. This is a multibillion dollar industry and the vast majority is geared toward men. On the other side of things, women are the ones primarily doing sexual acts for money. Women paying for male models/prostitutes is in the vast minority.

It seems that women are attracted more to the money and men more to the experience. Women not really interested in the sex as much but interested in what they can get from the sex (money, status, etc).

Thoughts...
Also supply and demand. A majority of women could have sex any time with the average man just by saying yes or walking into a bar. A majority of men have to put the work in to get sex with the average woman. That leaves a surplus of men who can't get laid (especially if they're shy) so they have to pay for it, go without or set their sights very low.

Prostitution should be legalised and a lot more formal to help men who can't get sex and to help female sex workers.
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Old 03-20-2016, 01:08 PM
 
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this post addresses what is being asked. I disagree that the multimillion dollar porn industry is soley driven by the corrupt nature of men not women while the more noble romantic novel industry is driven by women.

It suggests that women are more virtuous than men in general.
50 shades of grey is a glorified porno which millions of women flocked to see (and all the bought the book).

Men don't flock to the cinema in their millions to watch porno films.
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Old 03-20-2016, 01:16 PM
 
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this post addresses what is being asked. I disagree that the multimillion dollar porn industry is soley driven by the corrupt nature of men not women while the more noble romantic novel industry is driven by women.

It suggests that women are more virtuous than men in general.
Not too familiar with history are ya??? Not too many mass murderers and rapists and child molesters were women. Some maybe, but the vast majority of atrocities in the world were done by men.

I'm not saying women are perfect little creatures, but let's look at the bigger picture a bit here.

In that grander sense women are definitely a bit more virtuous than men. LOL
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Old 03-21-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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The same can be said for any labor type...

I was a modern-day slave in America - Nov. 21, 2013

Let's not kid ourselves... any labor type can be subject to someone entering into it out of survival or being bought and sold into it. We only single out the sex worker trade because it draws attention and media dollars... Of the labor types that are subject to human trafficking, only sex trade in the US is made illegal.

Stats are difficult, but I know 100% a circle of people are doing it out of choice (mostly supplementary income to another "regular" job). Of course, I'm not going to apply that to the general pop.

Again... look for trafficking victims in all sorts of labor types... and report it!
We don't single out the sex trad because it "draws attention and media dollars" - we single out the sex trade because women and little girls are being sold and RAPED for money.
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