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Old 12-29-2018, 02:42 AM
 
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I’m tired of being wrong.

That’s what it amounts to.
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Old 12-29-2018, 07:16 AM
 
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I’m tired of being wrong.

That’s what it amounts to.
Don't be discouraged, this can be done. Just remember, if you get in shape w/ muscle tone, there is a 100% chance that some non zero percentage of women will be interested in you.
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Old 12-29-2018, 07:40 AM
 
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Don't be discouraged, this can be done. Just remember, if you get in shape w/ muscle tone, there is a 100% chance that some non zero percentage of women will be interested in you.
Did he mention anything about working out?

Or, he could date not-so-athletic women, right? Kind of goldilocks, not to fat, not to thin, just right.

Kind of stick to his own kind when it come to appearance, that's a possibility.
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Old 12-29-2018, 08:32 AM
 
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I’m tired of being wrong.

That’s what it amounts to.
Are you going to take any of the advice, or just stay in your own head?
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Old 12-29-2018, 10:27 AM
 
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I’m tired of being wrong.

That’s what it amounts to.
To live is to be wrong.
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Old 12-29-2018, 10:29 AM
 
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This may not seem like a big deal, but it is. This is more supplicating behavior. I generally call women all kinds of pet names from 'baby', to 'babe', 'love', sometimes even playful names like 'love chop', or 'kitty cat', and for the most part they love it.

If you want to continue to call women "women" that's your decision but do not do it as supplicating behavior.
Baby? As in "please, baby? Please please please baby?"

That can be supplicating too.

JS

As for woman, you can say "C'MON, WOMAN!!!"

Not so supplicating
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Old 12-29-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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Baby? As in "please, baby? Please please please baby?"

That can be supplicating too.

JS

As for woman, you can say "C'MON, WOMAN!!!"

Not so supplicating
LOL it's more like "see ya later babe!" when leaving somewhere. It's like "people get mad about that? REALLY?" HAHAHAH
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Old 12-29-2018, 01:32 PM
 
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Are you going to take any of the advice, or just stay in your own head?

The advice that puts me on the path to being the man I want to be, yes. Some of it is not who I want to be. I'm not going to be the kind of guy who is cavalier and asks out strangers. That's not me. Doesn't mean I don't appreciate the advice.


My emphasis needs to be on being the man I want to be. That's the only thing I'm going to feel good about in the long run. It's where my focus has been for the last year, but I always held out hope that by being more like the man I wanted to be I would be more attractive to women. That hasn't happened for me. Women are polite and friendly to me, just like they've always been. I meet more and talk to more now, as being more social in general was something I wanted to change about myself, but that hasn't meant that they're any more interested in me than they ever have been.



Maybe getting my BMI down to 18 and chiseling my abs and finding a job in a major metro area and figuring out how to dress slick will change that. I tend to think there's a fallacy in believing "Just one more thing, is what I need for women to like me, just one more." I'm a hell of a lot more objectively attractive than I was a year ago...and it hasn't been enough for me. There will always be one more thing that I don't have that some other guy will. If I'm not enough for someone in who I am now, I never will be.



I need to be a person I want to be FIRST. Maybe I'll find a woman who wants me for that, for being myself. Maybe I won't. But hoping that this next thing I'm changing, that'll be the one, that'll make me desirable...I have to leave that hope behind. I have to leave trying to force my way to success in dating behind. I've spend a tremendous amount of time and energy on trying to find a relationship in the past year. It's not working, it's not in my direct control, and I have more worthwhile ways to spend my time in this next year.


I'll take an opportunity if one presents itself. But "polite and friendly" has never been an opportunity for me before, so I'm done thinking it could be in the future. I'm looking for more than that from now on.
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Old 12-29-2018, 01:53 PM
 
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Did he mention anything about working out?

Or, he could date not-so-athletic women, right? Kind of goldilocks, not to fat, not to thin, just right.

Kind of stick to his own kind when it come to appearance, that's a possibility.

I've asked all kinds of women. Older, younger, thicker, thinner, pretty, not-so-pretty, introverted, extroverted. "My own kind," I don't think there is such a thing.
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Old 12-29-2018, 03:09 PM
 
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My wife asked me out first... Her first sign of interest was saying to me, "hey nerd, we're going on a date with a smile"

I asked her why did she ask me out she said cause I wasn't going to do it so she went for it.

That was just her cause she's always been outspoken, some other women refuse to ask men out.
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