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Old 07-30-2016, 05:14 PM
 
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Maybe not, but most things are to a large degree.

What's ironic,, though is that "fixing" things to make oneself more attractive to women are the same things that will make a guy a better person overall.
A man doesn't have to be attractive to women to be a good person. I do not see the correlation.
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Old 07-30-2016, 05:16 PM
 
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A man doesn't have to be attractive to women to be a good person. I do not see the correlation.
Most of the traits that women find attractive are also what makes a good person.
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Old 07-30-2016, 05:47 PM
 
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Most of the traits that women find attractive are also what makes a good person.
Sounds too simplistic. If this were true more of the posters here would have girlfriends.
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Old 07-30-2016, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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Most of the traits that women find attractive are also what makes a good person.
By saying that, you seem to be implying that they (actually we, as I've never been in a relationship, and I'm going on 40) are not good people; and could be better people if only we would make some kind of mysterious change to ourselves.
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Old 07-30-2016, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Queens, NY
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By saying that, you seem to be implying that they (actually we, as I've never been in a relationship, and I'm going on 40) are not good people; and could be better people if only we would make some kind of mysterious change to ourselves.
Agreed.

Someone can be a very good person, and still not fare well in love/relationships.

I've realized in life that it's far more complicated than that.
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Old 07-30-2016, 06:05 PM
 
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By saying that, you seem to be implying that they (actually we, as I've never been in a relationship, and I'm going on 40) are not good people; and could be better people if only we would make some kind of mysterious change to ourselves.
I'm not saying you are not good people. I am saying by improving the areas that make you unattractive to women, you would be making yourself better overall.
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Old 07-30-2016, 06:09 PM
 
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Agreed.

Someone can be a very good person, and still not fare well in love/relationships.

I've realized in life that it's far more complicated than that.
True, but you can only improve by changing the things that make you unattractive to women.

And being attractive to women is much more complicated than just being good looking.
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Old 07-30-2016, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Queens, NY
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True, but you can only improve by changing the things that make you unattractive to women.

And being attractive to women is much more complicated than just being good looking.
True, but people should be doing that anyway.
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Old 07-30-2016, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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I'm not saying you are not good people. I am saying by improving the areas that make you unattractive to women, you would be making yourself better overall.
Thanks for the clarification. While it is understood that there is room for improvement for everyone, it's hard to improve in areas that make you unattractive to women, when you don't know what they are. I can only speak for myself, but that's why I've given up searching for a relationship, more or less.
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Old 08-02-2016, 04:41 AM
 
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I forgot the source but someone told me they read something on genetic research that in history there were a lot of guys who never got laid and were just simply unable to get women
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