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Old 11-30-2009, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Kuwait City, Kuwait.
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Here's the simple deal:

Women in their 20's want men they can mold into something good because it's a challenge. Anything else to them is boring and they like to brag to their friends how they changed said guy. It's like going out into the wilderness and taming a wild horse.

Problem is, large percentage of these GIRLS get kicked in the head by the wild horse they try to tame after years of trying. Horse runs off, never to be seen again.

Girl is left alone crosseyed and confused in her 30's wondering why she didn't just get a pre-tamed one.
I've had problems with women like that too. Without sounding like I'm blowing my own trumpet, I'm a great fella and I have dumped a few woman for that exact reason that they want to mold me into something they have fantasised about from romantic comedies or wherever else.

They didn't the know the concepts of compromise and take & give. I can't have my 100% ideal woman cos it's impractical, and I will always accept the flaws that comes with a woman after weighing up her characteristics.

But some women are just incapable of doing that. If a man has a, b and c, but is falling short on x and y, then they will dump him quicker than you can imagine. No sense of comprise at all.

 
Old 11-30-2009, 08:11 PM
 
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I have though, observed that many men are not alphas. That's why many women do not want a man that is in control. Many women do not want a man to be in control because many have never known a true alpha. Others are dominant women themselves and what they are happy with is a beta male, or someone that is not an alpha. I say, to each his/her own. Somebody has to take the betas.

And why is this? Increasingly I'd say most men are betas. And being in high schools all the time on my current assignment, I can tell you it's only getting worse, where it seems most men aren't alphas. In fact, one of my schools, there are more lesbian couples than hetero couples, with their being more alpha females than males.
 
Old 11-30-2009, 08:15 PM
 
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Originally Posted by undertheironsea View Post
Here's the simple deal:

Women in their 20's want men they can mold into something good because it's a challenge. Anything else to them is boring and they like to brag to their friends how they changed said guy. It's like going out into the wilderness and taming a wild horse.
Hi undertheironsea,

That is half true. They do want to tame this guy some to put him in the sweet stop. If they break him a bit she can establish some control. However the main reason is he is a big turn on. He is going somewhere and women want a piece of it and a piece of him in his offspring. If he has too much going then she has to share him. Got to break him of that. Making the big man your exclusive property is a huge bragging right.



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Problem is, large percentage of these GIRLS get kicked in the head by the wild horse they try to tame after years of trying. Horse runs off, never to be seen again.

Girl is left alone crosseyed and confused in her 30's wondering why she didn't just get a pre-tamed one.
The best men have women constantly making offers. If you think beautiful women are constantly hounded, try being a rock star. High status women are no match for a high status man just as there is no loser like a destitute man. Women make up the middle. Welcome to post monogamy.
 
Old 11-30-2009, 08:21 PM
 
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And why is this? Increasingly I'd say most men are betas. And being in high schools all the time on my current assignment, I can tell you it's only getting worse, where it seems most men aren't alphas. In fact, one of my schools, there are more lesbian couples than hetero couples, with their being more alpha females than males.
Hi macjr82,

Have you seen the Japanese grass eaters yet? Here you are girls. They are all yours.
Japan's 20- and 30-something males seem uninterested in careers and marriage. They spend almost as much on cosmetics and clothes as women, live with their mums and sit on the toilet when they pee. Some have even been known to wear bras.
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:21 PM
 
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The bad boy just causes trouble. He usually adds unnecessary problems to the relationship. In the same token a women doesn't want a wuss either. Even though she thinks she does? You know, the guy at Lowes or Sears that want's a new tool and practically gets drug out of the store by the ear and told "no"? What is the definition of a alpha male? The bad boy and the wuss kick the car and break the windshield when it won't run. The alpha male finds out why and fixes it! My two cents worth.........
 
Old 11-30-2009, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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The bad boy just causes trouble. He usually adds unnecessary problems to the relationship. In the same token a women doesn't want a wuss either. Even though she thinks she does? You know, the guy at Lowes or Sears that want's a new tool and practically gets drug out of the store by the ear and told "no"? What is the definition of a alpha male? The bad boy and the wuss kick the car and break the windshield when it won't run. The alpha male finds out why and fixes it! My two cents worth.........
BINGO - I LOVE this! And you are so right - alpha males take care of business
 
Old 11-30-2009, 08:28 PM
 
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The bad boy just causes trouble. He usually adds unnecessary problems to the relationship. In the same token a women doesn't want a wuss either. Even though she thinks she does? You know, the guy at Lowes or Sears that want's a new tool and practically gets drug out of the store by the ear and told "no"? What is the definition of a alpha male? The bad boy and the wuss kick the car and break the windshield when it won't run. The alpha male finds out why and fixes it! My two cents worth.........
Hi 2RUGGED4YOU,

I was cursing the engineers for bolt placement when changing out my thermostat. So split the difference.

I am going to disagree. Alpha is primary social status. Nerds can fix cars.

EDIT: beta male is synonymous with attracting women by being a primary provider and baby sitter.
 
Old 11-30-2009, 08:38 PM
 
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Ok, I lied a little. I have had to go retrieve wrenches from the neighbors front yard! lol.... Have you been messing around with this furnace or A/C? The man of the house "oh, no not me"? The women of the house "yes you have". I knew it. J/K you guys! lol......
 
Old 11-30-2009, 08:46 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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The problem w/ this thread is that a lot of people have Alpha Males confused. They think it means bad boy/jerk. It does not. A TRUE Alpha is a protector and a leader, they love and protect their family.

Alpha/beta behavior is most often studied in wolves. Wolves mate for life. Alpha males also only mate w/ Alpha females. When the Alpha female is feeding her young the Betas must protect her and her babies. She also eats before the beta males and females.

I'll take an Alpha.
 
Old 11-30-2009, 08:56 PM
 
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The problem w/ this thread is that a lot of people have Alpha Males confused. They think it means bad boy/jerk. It does not. A TRUE Alpha is a protector and a leader, they love and protect their family.

Alpha/beta behavior is most often studied in wolves. Wolves mate for life. Alpha males also only mate w/ Alpha females. When the Alpha female is feeding her young the Betas must protect her and her babies. She also eats before the beta males and females.

I'll take an Alpha.
#1 Alpha male has job? Edit: or is trying to get one again. Don't worry guys it will get better!
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